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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: rms@gnu.org, eliz@is.elta.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Apropos commands and regexps
Date: 17 May 2002 00:26:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5xg00r4tlo.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buoy9ekubkz.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>

Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp> writes:

> storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> > I don't like the "and" approach -- at least not as the default.
> > (see my previous posting for the rationale).
> 
> `and' is the defautl for all search engines that I've used, and has the
> advantage of being simple and easy to understand.

A quick test shows that Google, Yahoo, Lycos uses AND
while Altavista, Excite, AskJeeves uses OR.

That's 50/50...

For WEB search engines, I think AND does make sense -- since there
are SOOOO many pages to match.  But for a limited universe like
emacs -- which doesn't always use the most obvious terms --
using AND doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

> 
> Perhaps your idea of `2 or more' would work better in practice, but
> it's hard to say without some real experience.

I think it is adequate in practice.

> 
> > Comparing to WEB search engines, I don't think that separating
> > keywords with commas is common practice...
> 
> No, but it's common practice in writing lists.

I don't see the relevance, sorry.  But of course, we could ignore
commas in case people use them...

> 
> > Consider searching for "grep" -- shouldn't that return "igrep" ?
> 
> Good point; I guess maybe it shouldn't do any anchoring at all (bit
> annoying, that, since I often get lots of false hits when my apropos
> term unexpectedly happens to occur in the middle of a common english
> word...).

We could put a "button bar" at the top of the apropos output with
the following buttons:

 [Match all words]  [anchored match]  [search documentation]

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-16 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-12  0:57 Apropos commands and regexps Kim F. Storm
2002-05-12  5:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-12  5:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-13  1:40   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-13 19:18     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-14  5:55       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-13 19:11   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-14  5:38     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-15  7:00     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-15 11:23       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-15 21:59         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16  1:26           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 22:26             ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2002-05-16 21:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-17 11:59                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-18 18:48                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 22:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-19 12:02                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-19 14:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19 15:23                         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-19 19:40                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19 23:33                       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-20  9:50                         ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-16 21:58               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 12:01                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-17 21:56                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-18  6:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-18 22:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-17  6:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-17 11:58               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-16  4:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 22:10             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16 21:20               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17  6:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-18 18:49             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19  4:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19 19:40                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19 23:29                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-20  3:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 20:24         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-15 21:55       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16  4:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <5xbsbf4thx.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk>
2002-05-17  6:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-12 10:06 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-12 17:03   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-13 19:26     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-14  5:26       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 11:04 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-16 12:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 13:05   ` D. Goel
2002-05-16 22:37   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-16 22:44   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-17 19:28   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18  6:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19  5:30       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-23 21:41 ` Kim F. Storm

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