From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Date: 10 Jun 2002 01:38:50 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xelfg9g51.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <87bsaos1fl.fsf@orebokech.com> <200206072322.g57NMtK27277@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xbsam1tje.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200206091518.g59FIuL00222@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1023662388 17905 127.0.0.1 (9 Jun 2002 22:39:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17HBLg-0004eg-00 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:39:48 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17HBiE-0005qh-00 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 01:03:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17HBKz-0008KH-00; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 18:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17HBK5-000810-00; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 18:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E6A77C016; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:38:07 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200206091518.g59FIuL00222@aztec.santafe.edu> Original-Lines: 54 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4676 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4676 Richard Stallman writes: > As I read the comments, the new behaviour with two > almost identical header lines was a change to the worse. > > Why do you think so? A few people say they don't like it, A few? The majority of those who commented on this dislike it: David Ponce started by reporting the duplicate header line as a bug. You responded that it was deliberate. Stefan, Eli and Miles spoke against it (or at least suggested various methods for hiding it or making it optional). Francoise Romain send you a patch to implement Miles' suggestion. I also spoke against it and sent a different proposal (adding `+' to toggle the visibility of the extra header line). Alex Schroeder said he doesn't need it either. > but nobody has given any reasons. I think Eli gives the reason very clearly: It looks like a display bug. .. and it has already been reported as such a few days after it was change in CVS. So imagine the number of bug reports we'll get when 21.4 is released... > > It never occurred to me that copying part of the header would > be useful > > People complained when it was not possible. In response, we made a > special command for doing it, but hardly anyone knows about that > command so it is not a very good solution. That "hardly anyone knows about that command" is hardly a good argument to introduce a "display bug"... The command is right there on the Info menu. Only Robert J. Chassell seems to really need to copy from the header lines regularly -- and to be able to do that, he already knows that setting Info-use-header-line to nil allows him to do that. Can't we simply put that advice into NEWS or PROBLEMS or mention it somewhere in info's doc string or its info file -- and remove the extra header line. In any case, I think it is a good idea to add a mouse-3 sub-menu/command to header-lines and mode-lines to copy its contents to the kill-ring. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk