From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: --without-xim is ignored. Date: 12 Jul 2003 02:39:19 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xel0wo9xk.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <200307020505.OAA12367@etlken.m17n.org> <5xn0fsmq1f.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <5xwuesa3ka.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1057964081 18534 80.91.224.249 (11 Jul 2003 22:54:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, d.love@dl.ac.uk, handa@m17n.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 12 00:54:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19b6ml-0004on-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:54:39 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19b6yl-0005nn-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:07:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19b6it-0006TI-8i for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:50:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19b6dc-00047p-BT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19b6az-0002qw-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pfepa.post.tele.dk ([193.162.153.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19b6Zx-0002PR-Sh; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:41:26 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 879FA47FF24; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:41:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15550 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15550 Richard Stallman writes: > In any case, IMHO, fiddling with X resources isn't for the average user. > > A compile time option is much easier to describe and understand IMO... > > On the contrary, a compile time option is useless for the ordinary > user, but setting a flag in various ways is easy. We document > many Lisp variables and env vars in the Emacs manual. But this is neiher a lisp var or env var... What other "flags" do we currently have in Emacs which a) could be controlled via a lisp variable or function, but b) can only be controlled via X resources, and c) cannot be turned on again, once it has been turned off. In my experience, very few users are familiar with X resources. So at least we should include an example how to do this at the proper place in PROBLEMS, e.g. For example, you can use the option ``-xrm "useXIM: false"'' when you start emacs. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk