From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current Tramp plans Date: 02 Jul 2002 22:10:19 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5x65zxgac4.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025637130 6717 127.0.0.1 (2 Jul 2002 19:12:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17PT4M-0001kE-00 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 21:12:10 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17PT9V-0002JO-00 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 21:17:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PT4I-0004Kq-00; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PT29-0004C5-00 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:09:53 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 500557C017; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:09:41 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 50 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5339 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5339 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@cs.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: >=20 > > Kai.Grossjohann@cs.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > > > >> * Then comes an Ange-FTP-like filename format for the non-multi > >> methods. > > > > This is still to do, but ought to be trivial, more or less. >=20 > I would like to test things a little bit first. Therefore, I haven't > made the new setup the default. Instead, people can put >=20 > (tramp-handle-ange-ftp) >=20 > into their init files to install the new filename format and to turn > off Ange-FTP. Please test this to see whether you like it. If I compare this to ange-ftp on a fresh emacs -q, I see two advanges to ange-ftp over tramp: 1) With tramp, if I enter C-x C-f //kfs:/ TAB the input is simply truncated to /. With ange-ftp, I get completion in the home-directory of / on host `kfs'. With tramp, I need to enter, e.g. //kfs:/home/ for TAB to work. 2) Tramp does not succeed to connect to the `kfs' host. Ange-ftp does.=20 The only method which works for me to connect from this system to `kfs' is `tu'. The default method used by tramp (rcp) doesn't work... but there is no indication what is going on. If at least the echo area would say:=20=20 Connecting to `kfs' using `rsh', I'd have a clue to what's up. Of course, setting tramp-default-method to tu makes everything work smoothly, but since it doesn't work out-of-the-box like native ange-ftp does, I don't think the effect of tramp-handle-ange-ftp should be the default setting. But it is a nice option for tramp users (and ange-ftp users of course :-). --=20 Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk