From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: 28 Aug 2002 12:47:45 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5x4rdfdzu6.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <87lm6xiruh.fsf@computer.localdomain> <5xu1liwmu6.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200208261526.g7QFQX624783@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xu1lgu1e4.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200208271621.g7RGLNm30516@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xhehfe3aj.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030528110 28681 127.0.0.1 (28 Aug 2002 09:48:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stefan Monnier" , "D. Goel" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17jzR6-0007SQ-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:48:28 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17jzwp-0007hh-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:21:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17jzSP-0000gT-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:49:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17jzQ8-0000Q2-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:47:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17jzQ3-0000Pa-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:47:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17jzQ3-0000PV-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:47:23 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (kfs2.local.filanet.dk [192.168.1.182]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E4C97C017; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:47:21 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 50 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7034 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7034 Miles Bader writes: > I wrote: > > Hell, why not just make `C-x e' end the macro as well as executing it, > > and then use Stefan's idea of allowing the `e' to be repeated > > indefinitely [or something similar]? That would gain most of the > > savings of your approach, while maintaining the existing > > easy-to-remember bindings for macros. > > Actually, I think a better idea would be to make `C-x e' repeat if you > hit SPC afterwards, and display a message to that effect so that it's > obvious, e.g., > > Hit SPC to repeat macro > > (You could hit ^G if you want to insert a real space immediately after a > macro) Maybe it would be sensible to make this customizeable, e.g. kmacro-call-repeat-key which defaults to `e' or ` ' or nil. IMO, default should be nil as it is the least confusing choice. > > [I also think that hitting SPC should use the same repeat-count as the > original `C-x e', e.g., `C-u 20 C-x e SPC SPC' should execute the macro > 60 times] Hm, I can see what you mean, but I can easily think of cases where it will be confusing. But we can try it... > > I would _love_ an interface like that -- it's definitely true that it's > currently very annoying to hit `C-x e' repeatedly. You'd love it, I think I'd dislike it very much not; not being able to simply hit e or SPC after executing a macro seems completely broken to me. Remember, I use macros even for trivial tasks. In any case, I don't see any reason why I cannot add this feature for _your_ convenience. > [by contrast, the F3/F4 interface seems very blah to me; I guess I just > don't like function keys, they seem far too arbitrary] So why all the fuzz? -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk