From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 13:30:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5jy474fxib.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834m9u9dis.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 19 May 2016 20:13:47 +0300")
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Autoloading defcustoms just so people can set them interactively before
>> the associated package is loaded is a Bad Thing.
>
> I don't understand why. Can you explain? That's not the only
> defcustom that is marked as autoloaded.
It's the Emacs policy, and has been for years, to not autoload
defcustoms unless it's really needed for some special reason. Eg
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2007-06/msg00360.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-01/msg01145.html
I agree with Stefan. It's just wrong. Don't try to solve a generic
issue by autoloading the world one piece at a time.
>> IMO it would have been better to simply remove the bit about
>> set-variable from the manual.
>
> I don't see why we should remove useful advice from the manual, just
> because it's inconvenient to make it work.
It's not useful advice. This is the only instance of M-x set-variable in
the entire manual! No-one using multiple servers (a relatively advanced
feature) needs that crutch. It adds nothing to the manual to have it
there, and it should be taken out.
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[not found] ` <20160518194708.86FE0220157@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-05-19 16:44 ` master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) Glenn Morris
2016-05-19 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 4:07 ` Leo Liu
2016-05-20 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 7:11 ` Leo Liu
2016-05-20 7:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 8:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-20 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 12:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-20 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-20 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-26 3:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-26 3:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-26 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-27 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-28 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-17 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-17 20:35 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-17 22:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18 2:20 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-18 2:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-18 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18 20:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 13:45 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-23 13:48 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-23 14:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 14:48 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-06-23 14:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-23 15:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-24 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-01 13:33 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-01 15:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-05-20 17:30 ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2016-05-20 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-20 18:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-20 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-21 4:25 ` Leo Liu
2016-05-21 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-21 7:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-21 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
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