From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John ff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - industry Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 21:36:05 +0100 Message-ID: <5fc9a07c-2826-4d51-b9d6-fd97c833e08a@codemist.co.uk> References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> <875ylw9n1f.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----8M1ZOZKY3066HJNKHJFFJPHZHEPDD8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15667"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Android Cc: Jean Louis , "Po Lu via Emacs development discussions." To: Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 23 22:38:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ntEpA-0003u9-1q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 22:38:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50838 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ntEp8-0003e7-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 16:38:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ntEnv-0001eI-5Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 16:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from codemist.co.uk ([217.155.197.248]:56598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ntEnp-00034N-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 16:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [172.16.4.31] by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1ntEnC-0000Xl-Hv; Mon, 23 May 2022 21:36:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <875ylw9n1f.fsf@gmail.com> X-Referenced-Uid: 180245 Thread-Topic: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - industry X-Is-Generated-Message-Id: true X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.155.197.248; envelope-from=jpff@codemist.co.uk; helo=codemist.co.uk X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290174 Archived-At: ------8M1ZOZKY3066HJNKHJFFJPHZHEPDD8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am not sure what I would answer to this question=2E=C2=A0 I am retired fr= om an academic post but still do the kind of things I did from the 1970s=2E= =C2=A0 Even as an academic did stuff for other areas, computing mostly=2E= =C2=A0 Buy I must choose one, so I guess "other"=2E =3D=3DJohn ff On 23 M= ay 2022, 18:29, at 18:29, Timothy wrote: >Hi Jean, >= >Jean Louis writes: > >> ** Which industry do you wor= k in? :RadioSelect: >> - [ ] Academia (Student) >> - [ ] Academia/Research = >> - [ ] Education >> - [ ] FinTech >> - [ ] Healthcare >> - [ ] Legal >> -= [ ] Manufacturing >> - [ ] Software Development >> - [ ] Telecom >> - [ ] = *other* >> >> That question of industry provides some defaults which are ra= ther >> subjectively choosen > >Any list of industries is subjective=2E > >= > it is better that people enter industry themselves=2E > >They can do so v= ia the other field=2E The aim here is to capture what I >suspect >will be t= he most common responses=2E > >> Or make a proper list of industries, somet= hing like: >> >> >>= >> > >> >> > >> =E2=80=9CStudent=E2=80=9D is not an industry=2E > >No, but I think i= t=E2=80=99s the most helpful response students could give=2E > >> Academia = is not a specific industry, you maybe wish to say >> =E2=80=9CUniversity=E2= =80=9D > >I picked =E2=80=9Cacademia=E2=80=9D to avoid any potential confus= ion with >student/university=2E > >> =E2=80=9CEducation=E2=80=9D is not an = industry, maybe =E2=80=9CEducation Services=E2=80=9D is better=2E > >Change= d=2E > >All the best, >Timothy ------8M1ZOZKY3066HJNKHJFFJPHZHEPDD8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am not sur= e what I would answer to this question=2E=C2=A0 I am retired from an academ= ic post but still do the kind of things I did from the 1970s=2E=C2=A0 Even = as an academic did stuff for other areas, computing mostly=2E=C2=A0 Buy I m= ust choose one, so I guess "other"=2E
=3D=3DJoh= n ff
On 23 May 2022, at 18:29, Timoth= y <tecosaur@gm= ail=2Ecom> wrote:
Hi Jean,

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu=2Esup=
port> writes:

 *=
* Which industry do you work in? :RadioSelect:
 - [ ] Academia (Student)=

 - [ ] Academia/Research
 - [ ] Education
 - [ ] FinTech
 - [ =
] Healthcare
 - [ ] Legal
 - [ ] Manufacturing
 - [ ] Software Dev=
elopment
 - [ ] Telecom
 - [ ] *other*

 That question of indus=
try provides some defaults which are rather
 subjectively choosen

Any list of industries is subjective=2E

 it is better that people enter industry=
 themselves=2E

They can do so via the other field=2E Th=
e aim here is to capture what I suspect
will be the most common response=
s=2E

 Or make a pro=
per list of industries, something like:

 <https://www=2Ebls=2Egov/iag/tgs=
/iag_index_alpha=2Ehtm>

 <https://www=2Eindeed=
=2Ecom/career-advice/finding-a-job/types-of-industry>

 <ht=
tps://www=2Eibisworld=2Ecom/united-states/list-of-industries/>

 =E2=80=9CS=
tudent=E2=80=9D is not an industry=2E

No, but I think i=
t=E2=80=99s the most helpful response students could give=2E

 Academia is not a specific indus=
try, you maybe wish to say
 =E2=80=9CUniversity=E2=80=9D

I picked =E2=80=9Cacademia=E2=80=9D to avoid any potential confusion w=
ith student/university=2E

 =E2=80=9CEducation=E2=80=9D is not an industry, maybe =E2=80=9CEduc=
ation Services=E2=80=9D is better=2E

Changed=2E

=
All the best,
Timothy
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