From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: ChangeLogs on CVS? Commit netiquette. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121203 Archived-At: I did first check https://savannah.gnu.org/bzr/?group=3Demacs since I remembered that the bzr swwitch had been discussed. Following the instructions there, I had earlier tried (and just repeated) the command given, and it bombs: bzr branch http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/.bzr/branch/= ". 16:16:45 retriever bzr-emacs $ On 2/18/10, Karl Fogel wrote: > "T.V. Raman" writes: >>My cvs snapshot of emacs has Changelog files only upto the end of >>2009 --- has the repository moved, or are there just no >>changelogs any more? > > Hi, T.V.! Emacs switched to Bazaar. Please see > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrForEmacsDevs > > and ask any questions here, of course. > > Best, > -Karl > > >>On 2/18/10, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> This seems more of a short comming in `bzr log --short' than in the >>>>> way one writes commit messages. >>> >>> Not really: it's the whole idea behing "bzr log --short". >>> >>>> We currently *have* policies about ChangeLog entries and commit logs, >>>> so I agree with =D3scar: it is a good practice and we should require >>>> people to follow it; and treat people who doesn't the same way we >>>> treat people who mangles ChangeLog entries (that is, a gentle but firm >>>> reminder that we have guideliness and we're all expected to follow >>>> them). >>> >>> Yes, please, we should require the first line of commit messages to be >>> an acceptable summary of the whole changeset. >>> >>> Could someone update log-edit-mode's font-lock patterns so that the >>> first line is highlighted specially (at least in the Bzr and Arch >>> cases)? >>> >>> I think log-edit-mode should even go further in this direction. >>> The buffer should be created as >>> >>> ---------------- >>> Author: >>> Summary: >>> >>> blablabla >>> ---------------- >>> >>> where is the text taken from the ChangeLog. Then for >>> backends which support the notion of summary-line, C-c C-c could just >>> signal an error if the Summary line is still blank. >>> After that, empty header entries will get removed and the text is passe= d >>> as-is to the backend who is then free to pass it as-is to the underlyin= g >>> VCS or to extract the various fields and do whatever it feels like >>> with them. >>> >>> >>> Stefan >>> >>> >>> >