From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:36:07 -0700 Message-ID: <5f0ff9220906010736paad9321td86fd52326ebe722@mail.gmail.com> References: <87eiue83i7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87my92dmdt.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87eiudewtq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <831vqdubqy.fsf@gnu.org> <6161f3180905270548t3012bc1ah161719ae01db0fb5@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243866982 27992 80.91.229.12 (1 Jun 2009 14:36:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier , ams@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, "Andrew W. Nosenko" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 01 16:36:19 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MB8cb-0006hx-B3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:36:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59530 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MB8ca-0003rN-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MB8cW-0003qy-RG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:36:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MB8cV-0003qm-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51006 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MB8cV-0003qj-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]:54668) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MB8cS-0006Gg-Rr; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so3965271qwk.24 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/sLLrqjsflXrwUgEQHIv2sfI3N/KeyRYpVp6uhXvRUE=; b=CH2aoebiQkgpoG0q/eXjIh1gmwCqXjdxC4GDVu3paltnRy1IWfuL6JzjQkA+zj9Vp1 neTty/tzKvq3tWseQfG5K0av/OsEaa9arlu1K6kwmWzKURK6dqha4VuCXxX/hD1zvdln oIIXeBsil2ozvkJBnzJ0Xekq2LRmUEdsBCWjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rM9/8C9/rKaGeuv0etcXT052TBRYudrbg3LQu6BGzYGSNMFDwdBSn3OmKDt2ohILxb JC/fdBnD0VOjlFHeXovMhmT4CZ0vAtlZ4M+SvIOOFo8ILbqEeWV1OQppSzAER19ilBit AMg477aHpoql5DULSQY/V8lIBvsxEDR686by4= Original-Received: by 10.220.83.202 with SMTP id g10mr3672150vcl.75.1243866967056; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111250 Archived-At: But I'd still like to see the default behavior set so that visual line movement is not active. > This must be resolved before the release. > But I understand your point. Moreover, some time ago I also was > very frustrated, because convinient way for "phisical" line > navigation is no less. It is resolved: there is an easy and convenient way to get "physical line navigation", which is (setq line-move-visual nil). I do not think there is a real need to have both screen-line and logical-line movement available at the same time with convenient keys. Stefan -- On 6/1/09, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> This must be resolved before the release. > >> But I understand your point. Moreover, some time ago I also was >> very frustrated, because convinient way for "phisical" line >> navigation is no less. > > It is resolved: there is an easy and convenient way to get "physical > line navigation", which is (setq line-move-visual nil). > > I do not think there is a real need to have both screen-line and > logical-line movement available at the same time with convenient keys. > > > Stefan > > >