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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262407 Archived-At: >> I tried that once when I wanted people to test whether horizontal scroll >> bars work on their machines. It didn't take long to read the first "gentle" >> request on this list about how to switch them off ... > > I hope you gently told them where to go. :-) I told them how to switch them off - they didn't even bother to look for the knob themselves. But it taught me the lesson to never ever try such a thing again. The toughest resistance always comes from veterans and fellow developers ... martin