From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: dancol@dancol.org, pipcet@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changes in GC and in pure space (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 5d4dd55: Fix lifetime error in previous patch)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 09:56:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5da094e5-b72f-b3a5-8eef-6904916cd5c2@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o9006rol.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> How portable is "INLINE"
Quite portable, as its portability issues were shaken out years ago. It's been
used in Emacs since 2013, and it's designed for C99-and-later so future C
compilers should support it well.
> (and if it's portable enough, why do we use a jmacro for it)?
First, for convenience so that it's easier to follow the C rule that exactly one
compilation unit must declare a function to be 'extern inline' if any
compilation unit declares the function to be plain 'inline'. Second, for
portability to C compilers that still do not support C99-style 'extern inline'
(are these still significant? I don't offhand know).
> I FWIW, personally find the issue of confusion about macro argument
> evaluation to be a very weak one as justification to get rid of macros
There are other reasons to avoid macros. Aside from the performance issue I
mentioned in my buffer.h patch, debugging Emacs can be easier when C macros are
avoided. On the Ubuntu 18.04.3 platform where I'm typing this message, when I'm
using GDB to debug /usr/bin/emacs I can print expressions involving functions or
constants but not expressions involving macros; this is because Ubuntu builds
/usr/bin/emacs with -g instead of -g3. So avoiding macros helps make it easier
to debug Emacs in my situation, which is common on GNUish platforms.
Of course functions and constants cannot replace some C macros, such as INLINE.
But many of Emacs's C macros ought to be functions or constants now, and this is
not simply to avoid confusion.
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[not found] ` <20190721193222.8C19E20BE2@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-07-22 4:12 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 5d4dd55: Fix lifetime error in previous patch Pip Cet
2019-07-22 13:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-23 1:06 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-22 15:00 ` Changes in GC and in pure space (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 5d4dd55: Fix lifetime error in previous patch) Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-22 17:47 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-22 18:19 ` Changes in GC and in pure space Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-22 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-23 1:43 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-23 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-23 16:27 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-23 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-23 2:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-22 19:05 ` Changes in GC and in pure space (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 5d4dd55: Fix lifetime error in previous patch) Pip Cet
2019-07-23 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-23 15:33 ` Changes in GC and in pure space Stefan Monnier
2019-07-24 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2019-08-15 9:34 ` Changes in GC and in pure space (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 5d4dd55: Fix lifetime error in previous patch) Paul Eggert
2019-08-16 13:34 ` Pip Cet
2019-08-22 0:25 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-22 2:06 ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-22 5:36 ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-04 6:05 ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-04 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-04 16:56 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2019-09-04 17:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-09-04 17:45 ` Changes in GC and in pure space Stefan Monnier
2019-09-04 18:34 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-09-04 19:15 ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-05 7:04 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-24 2:58 ` Changes in GC and in pure space (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 5d4dd55: Fix lifetime error in previous patch) Richard Stallman
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