From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 09:08:11 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d2bf128-cdc7-4578-89d9-6ea8b7967a62@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8kbwzdg.fsf@alphapapa.net>
> However, when I tried to write a bookmark-listing command to display
> only Burly's bookmarks, it wasn't as easy to re-use existing
> functionality. I tried to re-use the list-bookmarks command by binding
> bookmarks-alist to a filtered alist, and that worked.
>
> The problem is that re-displaying the bookmarks list (e.g. after
> deleting a bookmark) shows the non-filtered bookmarks list. I then
> experimented with using buffer-local function advice in the
> list-bookmarks buffer to cause it to use the filtered bookmarks list
> when re-displaying, but it didn't seem to work. And even if it had, it
> would have been very hacky, so it didn't seem like a good solution.
>
> An idea I had was for the list-bookmarks command to use an optional
> filter function to filter the bookmarks-alist before displaying them, so
> the filter could persist after using commands to manipulate
> bookmarks.[2] (Note that the global value of bookmarks-alist would
> remain unchanged so that saving the bookmarks to disk still saves all
> bookmarks, not just the filtered ones.)
This all already done, in Bookmark+.
You can filter in any number of ways. And by
default the filtering (and other state of the
bookmark-list display) persist, until you
change it.
And you can even bookmark the bookmark-list
display state. Jumping to such a bookmark
restores the display.
> Frankly, I wonder if list-bookmarks ought to be rewritten to use,
> e.g. tabulated-list-mode instead of its bespoke code.
Absolutely not. Tabulated-List mode is IMO a
rudimentary, fragile, brute hammer. It takes
over a complete buffer (you can't even add a
heading or a paragraph, outside the table).
It offers little, and prevents much.
Dired, bookmark-list display, and most other
seemingly tabular lists should stay away from it.
Such UIs can be quite sophisticated, offering a
_lot_ more than just tabular display with only
simplistic sorting. Don't go by what you see
at first sight ("Oh, hey, there's a tabular
list here...").
> (Although I'm guessing that would break much
> of Drew's Bookmarks+ library...)
Yes. Vanilla Emacs has apparently gone this
route recently, against my requests/advice.
As a result I'll no doubt have to include some
of the previous vanilla bookmark.el code in
Bookmark+. Alas. (On n'arrete pas le progres...)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-05 17:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-03 10:43 Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 10:54 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 11:15 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 11:32 ` Joost Kremers
2020-11-03 12:22 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 16:07 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 17:12 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 19:31 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 21:13 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 8:10 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 8:54 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 9:57 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 10:39 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 13:17 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 15:32 ` Joost Kremers
2020-11-04 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-04 17:23 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 17:15 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-03 11:24 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 15:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-03 16:10 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 17:16 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 17:59 ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-03 19:10 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 19:49 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 6:08 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-11-04 19:57 ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-04 20:18 ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-04 20:29 ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-05 8:54 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 10:11 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 19:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-04 19:39 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 15:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-06 9:34 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 18:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-04 18:32 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 18:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 8:05 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 9:22 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 12:54 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 13:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 14:38 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 15:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 15:34 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 16:18 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 17:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 17:09 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-05 17:08 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-11-05 16:19 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 17:56 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06 9:15 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-06 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06 16:28 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06 19:43 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-06 20:24 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06 20:57 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-07 0:30 ` Daniel Martín
2020-11-08 9:36 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-08 12:09 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-08 12:40 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-08 13:37 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-08 16:48 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 18:26 ` on hyperlinks (bookmarks) Jean Louis
2020-11-08 19:47 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 20:26 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-08 13:45 ` Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Arthur Miller
2020-11-08 16:48 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 17:37 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-08 19:24 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-05 15:29 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 16:25 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 16:47 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 18:00 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 18:56 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 19:33 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 4:55 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-06 9:49 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-06 9:42 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 9:56 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 17:07 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 19:46 ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-08 19:50 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-11-09 22:45 ` Mathias Dahl
2020-11-09 23:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-10 0:05 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-10 2:31 ` T.V Raman
2020-11-10 6:47 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 19:23 ` Juri Linkov
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2020-11-04 17:28 Boruch Baum
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