From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yes, please allow pre-configuration of first frame [was: Blink Cursor mode is off by default] Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 07:37:07 -0700 Message-ID: <5cc07aef-9c8b-4a5b-8cdb-3d003bed7151@dancol.org> References: <838t7lqnf0.fsf@gnu.org> <83zi01p6th.fsf@gnu.org> <13a2189b89d06be494cbc21561713d5d.squirrel@dancol.org> <83o9ggpwfs.fsf@gnu.org> <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> <5659356aea4cdccd07e28e441c1ae98b.squirrel@dancol.org> <871sd8kugv.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1529159720 3406 195.159.176.226 (16 Jun 2018 14:35:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:35:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 16 16:35:16 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCIM-0000lI-Tk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 16:35:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51706 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCKU-0002iI-4i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCKN-0002iC-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCKK-0006ud-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:46956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCKJ-0006uJ-QY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:37:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=LvmFqm0XEcgFOBGRS7g6V1TM7tfRcboTR+emTgVx/u8=; b=qnEjfQSUAHavweeQ0ZQvn0RESr8gCxuDGXW9qSYdMUY8Q1yeXbSdH4hKK9ilrx9YAHPtFSV+8B66FwLor8P6Td/T0vJI81Xzn+l0XTUrPtYZP3u7Q3Ern5ftebF2d6zyNBEiejYXVkaGOBD5yQJ4x6oUgpt8nadX/8d0mnF4sgSiA/XSL+zXafm8RKWmi1vg7QniEp4RiIONuQOtLdBJMZX1hIYycP91uckzMVHmbNZ1gguz1t2QbT9JGNr75vq99EoIVoqEdv4/ekUfkT6/VSLFEW8+LHEeguFNVuhE90Z7RhY9K6J98g5AE9bz0f5J9yyhSNCs0+5Jv31D3fmBgA==; Original-Received: from [172.92.145.124] (helo=[192.168.86.27]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUCKH-0001kW-8V; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 07:37:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226362 Archived-At: On 06/15/2018 02:34 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> It doesn't sound right, though, that a fix for this should >> involve the user having to mess around with intiialisation >> order etc. -- it should "just work". >> >> It seems that this might be a worthwhile project for "someone" >> to work on? (Perhaps they could fix the problem of not being >> able to un-apply themes at the same time?) > > I don't really understand what you suggest doing: the .emacs file is > read *after* creating the first frame, so there's no way to avoid > "flashing" without breaking some .emacs files. The file could just run against a dummy frame that happens to look like the GUI frame we'll eventually create.