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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.213, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256529 Archived-At: On 27.09.2020 12:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > On my system, latest versions of GDB, GCC, and Binutils programs all > show this in their "--version" output, which is the equivalent of the > Emacs splash screen (since Emacs is primarily an interactive GUI/TUI > program, not a console application). I would argue that "--version" corresponds to our "About" screen. As it is also for most other graphical applications. Many of them don't have any splash screen to begin with. Our splash screen should be more comparable to launching GCC or GDB with no arguments. When one does that, GDB does print the "NO WARRANTY" message, and GCC does not.