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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Opaque objects and Emacs documentation
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:21:36 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a31ce31-576c-4f4a-8334-bf6982baf258@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91040299-384b-b952-7273-4da432ecb1ea@yandex.ru>

> >> Doesn't the Commentary cover most (all?) of the above?
> >
> > Documenting stuff in the commentary is better than nothing, but it is
> > sub-optimal: our Help commands don't scan comments, so the information
> > that is only in comments is less discoverable, certainly by users.
> 
> We do have 'M-x describe-package', though (C-h P).

And there is `finder-commentary'.  It could
be bound to a help key (`C-h <something>').

The version of `finder-commentary' I have in
`finder+.el' names the buffer `*Commentary, <file>*'
where <file> is the file the Commentary is from,
not just `*Finder-package*'.  That labels it well,
and lets you easily have more than one such help
buffer.

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/finder%2b.el

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/FinderMode

> > Therefore, I think any information important to
> > users should be in doc strings and the manual,
> > not just in comments.

I agree with that.  (But I also think that a helpful
Commentary is a good thing, and I miss the Commentary
sections of yesteryear.)



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-24 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-07-12 20:07   ` master 0339325: ; * lisp/progmodes/project.el (project-current): Doc fix Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-13  3:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-13 11:09       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-13 13:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-13 14:14           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-16 22:40           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17  6:56             ` Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17  8:13               ` tomas
2020-07-17 10:40                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 15:38                   ` tomas
2020-07-17 10:37               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-07-17 10:46                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 10:53                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-07-17 10:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 11:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 12:02                   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-07-17 12:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 13:09                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 14:35                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 15:03                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-18  1:54                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-18 19:17                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-19  2:27                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-19 14:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 19:00                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:36                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 20:56                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 21:06                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 20:49                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 20:59                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 21:20                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 21:25                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:08                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 21:02                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 20:29                                     ` John Yates
2020-07-22  0:45                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 14:08                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-19 22:02                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-20  2:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-21  1:09                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21  8:57                                   ` tomas
2020-07-21 10:14                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 10:29                                       ` tomas
2020-07-21 14:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 18:56                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 21:31                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 14:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 15:44                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 16:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 16:37                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:36                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-07-21 21:17                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 22:12                                       ` Edebug (was: Opaque objects and Emacs documentation) Stefan Monnier
2020-07-22 14:31                                       ` Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 15:33                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 16:22                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 16:26                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-23  4:04                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-23 13:42                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 11:43                               ` João Távora
2020-07-17 13:08                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 13:42                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 14:56                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 16:56                   ` John Yates
2020-07-17 17:13                     ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 19:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 19:26                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 19:25                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 11:53                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-17 13:13                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:26                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-17 16:58                       ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 19:22                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 22:30                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-18  0:00                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-07-18  1:01                           ` Drew Adams
2020-07-18  1:55                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-17 16:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-23 23:24                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-23 23:40                   ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 11:23                       ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24 11:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24  0:43                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-24  1:22                     ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 16:33                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-25 16:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 20:18                             ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-26  2:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26  9:16                                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-26 14:02                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 20:49                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-25 16:38                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 14:56                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-24 17:21                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-07-24 17:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-07-17 15:41               ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 15:49                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 15:59                   ` Drew Adams

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