From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ali Bahrami Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding the dump (redux) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:08:49 -0600 Message-ID: <5a17d91a-ff30-785d-3587-78838d46fd88@emvision.com> References: <5decf0e7-8f26-3fc7-7094-1bfdb211eefc@emvision.com> <83k0p0vjgn.fsf@gnu.org> <0aa226dd-50e3-ec62-e0ac-2b9194c3d90d@emvision.com> <831rb8uiv0.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0p02efn.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87zgxu7juf.fsf@igel.home> <279d1651-55f7-9cd6-4f6b-7616676beca4@emvision.com> <83tuo2s9g1.fsf@gnu.org> <83mttus5hs.fsf@gnu.org> <1bf535b8-ca77-0eb6-9ac3-029b686b3671@emvision.com> <83eef6s1v8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27968"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Ali Bahrami Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 19 19:13:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lYXT3-0007B2-Ue for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:13:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYXT2-0006zj-UU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:13:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYWZB-0005yu-Sq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:16:06 -0400 Original-Received: from gateway.emvision.com ([71.33.253.1]:15188 helo=emvision.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYWZ8-0006VQ-7G; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [198.182.198.2] (moose.emvision.com [198.182.198.2]) by emvision.com (8.15.2+Sun/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 13JG8nga010550; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:08:49 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <83eef6s1v8.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (emvision.com [192.168.0.2]); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:08:50 -0600 (MDT) for IP:'198.182.198.2' DOMAIN:'moose.emvision.com' HELO:'[198.182.198.2]' FROM:'ali@emvision.com' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (emvision.com [192.168.0.2]); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received-SPF: none client-ip=71.33.253.1; envelope-from=ali@emvision.com; helo=emvision.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:10:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268185 Archived-At: On 4/19/21 9:58 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Ali Bahrami >> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:41:17 -0600 >> >> It would also really help with that manifest problem. >> Perhaps it is "paradise lost", but "paradise lost on >> source change" would be a big upgrade. > > The "paradise lost" I alluded to is that with native-compilation, when > you modify Emacs and rebuild, some of the hashes in the *.eln files' > names could legitimately change, and thus cause you to update the > manifest. > When you say "modify emacs", that's a source change, and not just a rebuild, right? If so, that's not a problem for me, because I create a new manifest in that case already. What I consider paradise lost is if the fingerprint changed just because I rebuild the unchanged sources. - Ali