From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:20:19 +0000 Message-ID: <5D02E688-4EAA-46C6-9B16-F7EFE3EA3848@gmail.com> References: <708F3D2D-A87C-4F80-BC27-171D82653F4D@gmail.com> <069BF3EB-C5E4-4042-91E9-0DFB37C58E99@gmail.com> <36F6CF11-E742-4175-A995-E5A62EC2A335@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133216537 5449 80.91.229.2 (28 Nov 2005 22:22:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 28 23:22:15 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrMm-00058h-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:20:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrMk-0001ia-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:20:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrMS-0001iC-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:20:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrMK-0001hY-Qv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:20:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrMK-0001hV-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:20:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.202] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EgrMJ-0007Xw-Se for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:20:28 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so2258374wra for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=cOwH82uFHsm6R0VuH0dvHmrnUv4Uiuv2Kau5Yz3CaG7IEypP+L653a7RFYQ+QPvmDimbMecNhMtAKz0+7pXfyB4it0/u01MQFUKPyw7fSiVNYmwx0e9Oa7HdQm1kvICSopXvtAs5mmPeSOZX/evMZ/6BofRUpsQZTT4521KBTqo= Original-Received: by 10.65.75.6 with SMTP id c6mr19582qbl; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?129.215.174.81? ( [129.215.174.81]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15sm49252qbq.2005.11.28.14.20.19; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:20:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46731 Archived-At: On 28 Nov 2005, at 21:00, Richard M. Stallman wrote: > I'm not sure it's a bug, it could be a missing feature. The > issue is > how to determine that a frame that displays the current menu is > visible. > > Is it only Mac OS on which the menu can be separated from the frame? > On Mac OS, does it always apply to the selected frame? Yes, to the selected frame (and the selected buffer). And it's not an option for the user (in the Carbon port) - the menu is always on the top of the screen. Wasn't there some option in KDE or Gnome that allowed you to do that, too? I faintly remember seeing something. (Though I don't know if this will apply to Emacs' menu, too.)