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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299078 Archived-At: On 3 November 2022 04:17:47 CET, Richard Stallman wrote: >[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example=2E ]]] > > > > How about `checkout' instead of `repo'? `package-checkout' to chec= k > > > out from the ELPA repo, and either `package-upstream-checkout' or > > > `package-dev-checkout' for the upstream repo=2E > > > As Stephan has pointed out that "-checkout" is misleading > >We are miscommunicating here, I think=2E > > since it > > sounds like a command that would just clone the repository > >Yes, exactly=2E That is what I propose for this command to do: just >check out that package's repo=2E > > without > > activating it as a package=2E > >Yes, exactly=2E This command should check out the package, and no more= =2E > >After that, you may wish to load the code of that package, or arrange >for it to be loaded on other occasions in the future, or you may not=2E >We should provide easy ways to do those things if you want to, but we >shouldn't impose those things on you by default just because you >asked to see those sources in a repo=2E > In that case we are simply talking about different things=2E My intention,= which is also a popular feature among users, is to provide the ability to = fetch and activate a package directly from source=2E Getting rid of this fe= ature would undermine the point of the branch=2E What I can do, as I had pr= eviously proposed is to, is provide a second command, package-vc-checkout t= hat does what you propose=2E It would take a package and a directory as arg= uments=2E