From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: goto-char doesn't stick Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <594283C2.7070101@gmx.at> References: <03485ABD-CF71-4FF8-B887-ED7607341EBD@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497531397 14897 195.159.176.226 (15 Jun 2017 12:56:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 12:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Noam Postavsky , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 15 14:56:33 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dLUK8-0003YZ-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:56:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLUKD-0003Fj-3Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42901) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLUJd-0003Fc-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLUJa-0005ib-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:64059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLUJZ-0005iV-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([46.125.250.13]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRkhB-1dFH2C1qVV-00SzNm; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:55:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:LP2cjsR3lZO1fvSYZsa+baoegaSAF6Xu9qnWEN2C6tUFJrrTSuE rvIapy0o9X7S1CGUzCd+Oi96BHQ5qH9b4fdF3Vs+4kpfHWoSNY2Uvw3Lxl5iZ0lR+LmV2tg 3tugAc30RUa5Cps8+oGkBkSWC/yCRME3fRLHlBEdP4H3RRcVyf9gss4ZTVLZcf+mUXYVu65 LD9ENi9vzoqZDPOHIEcDA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:57mdMwkp82w=:2gM8kI3d0w+tziH1J9EoLv 7xaTmRGhACdvbwjF8zCWeTU4VRjs1Lks9hdYBqQOoE7eb8JW1/NTK6kdcUf349z0ZPFuf6X8+ pMWJ5iBECdlabwJqTqmj/FADHWj5iNe27qLD6+cL4XBcL/x8fCKgVWvXmHUHIoh0Qy3pHFBEG BXIPnn/1iU31/caDONO4SENpu1y4gA4yZuMG7iDe9UwQ+LrqPyLae9a7YGqiERCJvyFq9rWdP YE0GDUycdiVO/XnfZjTJb8aThLe7jmjj4lf0j+luUgU+vGTm7tIWtliT+Navhr3plzCDApLCL J2/B2n68n9rovm1omM8lqelVtmcqxoFlzSvGbTAEOmID+M7qPEdPPWf5mCF8zYtqjbbp9bx8v 7FSl3lb9yMW5nFqCtNMo7MYCf+OIRUn1RvYKKQOyUmYac8WrGfUELpjTYBW7zeWbAey3kEOxQ 1HZiXdh2GsoaaUEFVTH2dEHb4VRMRRPgh4dTXC1iINyjE/rVTeoUFruRFAH2hsT00iWwmcc0e DTxmGk0Pk31S0Gsm/tRS1c7c5OSDweEZcG60GViaKhs7Q3sBZ7w/oh5ki6G9ZNzZd00Y4fx1/ g4D8Jp1Mr1OPE8REUnxNTr6hFrN3KXq7IA2duDHU+5hsWYy3TmZRD4A8+9tvsbq6dC7F2/3PB 0xWCXu2T6C4q8N2aiFcl9mX/13L5oEDgYWumQ9WbLDalaBpR8jsSa3z4WWBWILc76FVABSyqx +6F3LSEqtZghO9g86U4kfaTeP2OUeFJYFyOiN+abNq8YRbKpL76hEkq49NbxzuFyoU8X9s+j X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215638 Archived-At: > Maybe we should provide set-preserved-window-point? Or > set-user-visible-point which would set all of point, window-point, and= > preserved window-point (although I'm not sure how to deal with the > multi-window case cleanly)? This bug is yet another consequence of using =E2=80=98switch-to-buffer=E2= =80=99 in Elisp code. Years back I failed miserably curing that, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-07/msg00306.html and http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-09/msg00020.html My advice is the same as ever: Always use =E2=80=98pop-to-buffer-same-win= dow=E2=80=99 in Elisp code instead. Masochistically yours, martin