From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:14:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <58A04393.9050207@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2fujkm855.fsf@newartisans.com>
> This argument right here is why I would vote against comment-cache: I'd rather
> have parens-in-comments-at-column-0 parsed incorrectly -- at least, until
> syntax-ppss is fixed -- than to add another cache just to fix this problem.
> Unless I've missed something...
It makes me rather sad that this discussion does not consider ecological
consequences at all. IIUC it started because of a "(c)" copyright
characters sequence in the comment of some C code. Doesn't it strike
anyone as the ultimate irony to consider this an issue in the context of
copylefted software?
Also IIUC we still adhere to the GNU coding standards which clearly say
that
It is important to put the open-brace that starts the body of a C
function in column one, so that they will start a defun. Several tools
look for open-braces in column one to find the beginnings of C
functions. These tools will not work on code not formatted that way.
Avoid putting open-brace, open-parenthesis or open-bracket in column
one when they are inside a function, so that they won’t start a
defun. The open-brace that starts a struct body can go in column one
if you find it useful to treat that definition as a defun.
The continuous attempts to deceive this standard's rules have been
harassing me for many years now. If people do like copyrighted code and
code written according to non-GNU standards, then we should provide at
least one single option that respects an open paren in column zero where
it belongs to: At the beginning of a defun and nowhere else.
In Emacs this option is called `open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start'.
Emacs code should obey this option in the sense that if it is non-nil,
it should behave ecologically in terms of consumption of CPU cycles and
memory space.
martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-12 11:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-02 20:24 Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 21:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 22:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-03 17:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 22:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 10:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 2:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-07 1:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-07 19:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-14 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 16:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-22 2:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-22 3:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-23 14:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-23 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-24 7:46 ` Tom Tromey
2017-02-14 21:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-16 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-18 10:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-18 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 2:53 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 8:20 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-12 10:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 11:14 ` martin rudalics [this message]
2017-02-12 15:05 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-12 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 22:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 1:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 18:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-11 23:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 12:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 13:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-02-12 15:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 20:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-13 1:47 ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 5:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 6:45 ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 7:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 7:59 ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 9:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 16:14 ` Drew Adams
2017-02-13 7:05 ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 7:16 ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 14:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 18:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-13 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 22:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03 16:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 21:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 11:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 1:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 20:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 22:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 21:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 12:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-07 21:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-04 9:06 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-04 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-04 18:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 7:49 ` Yuri Khan
2017-02-03 18:30 ` Andreas Röhler
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