From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniele Nicolodi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about pgtk -- is it meant to fix the disconnect crash bug? Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 23:57:02 +0100 Message-ID: <58148d31-5886-a684-5a8a-49d489fcf355@grinta.net> References: <87h7lr4zrv.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9334"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 04 23:58:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lHwvi-0002KF-DU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 23:58:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33248 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHwvh-0001he-D7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:58:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHwu2-0008Aw-Nb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:57:07 -0500 Original-Received: from grinta.net ([109.74.203.128]:35412) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHwu0-0008KB-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:57:06 -0500 Original-Received: from black.local (p4fe717e2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.231.23.226]) (Authenticated sender: daniele) by grinta.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11E1AE0804 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2021 22:57:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=grinta.net; s=2020; t=1614898623; bh=WTlmotf/bJOTeQKTwZeZoNTesKNMM3Xrd9pthheDFxs=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WZVHXPi7TR3PDouZhSNCUG8TCVzkpBI6iIMH/50MLzaYwtShJn5VvYXHZpP+/K1Dl 28WpRjDsrJmPq+dfMja1p7JnLmW0cc3qnln/m3AQxxvmTGTpkyMRnn5ZTxAmsQZUu+ h+zV8EHcfvR1EJ8/OL3t/X9SAaSWSHM3ZfNEnfHLBm40dLig8L0Nkm6jjMPbUz0QEG BJm0XRS68ju0c6Ak0QvOC5EI+m6PAsN3JWBpKEdeI5JO7lEkJAmzWO1wqgretQrSBF AzBMR5CkghYAsrBpRqU8RmlzLLTV+N5GXb/Vx/h+XG+zAiKhcNTVap7dtkq+hqj4mg bXeRTLqdK2EEA== In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=109.74.203.128; envelope-from=daniele@grinta.net; helo=grinta.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265994 Archived-At: On 04/03/2021 23:10, chad wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:51 PM Sean Whitton > wrote: > > I had thought that one of > the benefits of the pgtk branch was that it would not have this bug, > which plagues the old Emacs GTK builds.  Am I just making that up? > > > Adding a bit of historical perspective: it might be more accurate to say > "the GTK people are unwilling to address the issue when it's caused by > what some people call 'unclean gtk use' inside emacs", with the > concomitant hope that they will more more receptive to a pure-gtk issue. > AFAIK, the only alternative to GTK fixing the problem is something > semantically very close to monkey-patching. The last time I looked at this the GTK maintainers are interested in investigating the bug and fixing it in GTK as long as it does not involve debugging Emacs but a more manageable reproducer of the issue. AFAIK, no one tried to provide one. Also, the last time I looked, Emacs aborts() when it detects the condition that causes the bug, thus fixing the bug in GTK does not automatically fix Emacs. Cheers, Dan