From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 27.1 Windows Binaries -- testing wanted Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:01:48 +0100 Message-ID: <57cbba80f91fbadd932b94bfa8d353aa@russet.org.uk> References: <83pn7oft7r.fsf@gnu.org> <5fd1bc533b4bfe603d106fb3ee816208@russet.org.uk> <83364keznu.fsf@gnu.org> <87imdgrlpq.fsf@telefonica.net> <83tuwzewxa.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeo3sxw0.fsf@telefonica.net> <47436f6137c965db141e290de6597fd5@russet.org.uk> <464a5bf221d1d77ea13381fb901931fd@russet.org.uk> <834kovbx7x.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6yk72ec.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo1o59kt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1932"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.6 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 19:03:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAFsY-0000Ly-2E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:03:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55406 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAFsX-0000D0-5E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAFr0-0006tt-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:01:54 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:52942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAFqy-0003Hh-30; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:01:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:MIME-Version:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=T0w+09qYKy+Hz+eynYn2L5ULJeClUzZhV9wW8gcApzc=; b=yYDJEAzSHat5AvDfGcVBgbpYo0 J+duqBAlEAGfLHq81AzYXa0ySNY2RHTfEOomKyZhMrrUHugMIR1kZSnh8VWl7aORCCkgyqnaw8U5a oVqkQUzB04vGMkIg2/Dx3HSUuYPUPOGoTa+5yTeVjcXOmZX0E7pahB7P3cSFEbQz7nEOOFMmI1ExC v1ECqZqK+ifKGBfJp4BjF1DVfhEquRaZyEEt4cP9ow83TM0g+YafVV4aEGsX8U8pkHYf+f85bXLS+ pIl9eJk9b9o6Hj+uV/iQZu0+iXpHOV41IDdOxcedkT9LBERkoQCnbXH/g0GQlmnNZQHAvX9GyPEDh 17Aqt7Ow==; Original-Received: from [::1] (port=37476 helo=cloud103.planethippo.com) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kAFqu-0008Lk-Py; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:01:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83wo1o59kt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Sender: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.129.138.110; envelope-from=phillip.lord@russet.org.uk; helo=cloud103.planethippo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/24 13:01:49 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254192 Archived-At: On 2020-08-24 16:48, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: Robert Pluim , emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk >> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:14:47 -0400 >> >> > The advantage of what I proposed is that it also detects the cases >> > where HarfBuzz is available, but for some reason not used. >> >> That can be useful in some cases, but I think in the present case it's >> a disadvantage: we want to know what the executable (and installed >> libs) >> provide, rather than what the ~/.emacs chose to use. > > No, we want to know what the executable and its environment, as > provided in the bundle, will yield at run time. > > I agree that it might catch some irrelevant circumstances, but that's > inevitable, at least if such simple tests are being sought. At the moment, it is enough to tell me that the distribution I have produced actually has the features that it has been compiled with. I've picked simple tests because they do that and simple is better than complicated. I'll make it complicated when it is clear that simple is not complicated enough. Phil