From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 19:41:15 +0200 Message-ID: <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467826932 6812 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2016 17:42:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 17:42:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 19:42:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKqpj-0006BM-F7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 19:41:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35050 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKqpf-00009b-LS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:41:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKqpA-0008Qs-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKqp5-0002g1-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:36580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKqp5-0002fq-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:41:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E339B1614D6 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id GHuUtKGoy1Vi for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F23C160CB5 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:41:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id BaQHGqO6ALWK for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.35] (89-159-79-138.rev.numericable.fr [89.159.79.138]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6E921614D6 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:41:17 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205274 Archived-At: On 07/06/2016 06:06 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > using a pull request system would reduce the > need for writing every commit message as if it was going into a > ChangeLog I don't see why; if we're going to keep the current format, pull requests should use the format too. I have the sense that pull requests work better in projects with a large number of occasional committers and a small number of full-time developers who triage and review. Emacs development doesn't work that way: among other things, there are no full-time developers, and we don't have enough reviewer time. So it may not be a good fit for the pull-request model. (It might make sense to change Emacs's development model but that's a larger topic....)