From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving describe-mode and discoverability Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:27:34 -0400 Message-ID: <576C6256.6060708@gmail.com> References: <576C2A6C.3090908@gmail.com> <576C59AF.7080902@gmail.com> <9c928ea6-6799-d096-de54-b2bf7ac140ec@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kGv49wohsg638mFD2q3VI30rMkvHJseIG" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466720886 19026 80.91.229.3 (23 Jun 2016 22:28:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 22:28:06 +0000 (UTC) To: Dmitry Gutov , Drew Adams , Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 24 00:27:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bGD6K-0000e3-Hs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:27:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39689 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGD6G-0006wY-CN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:27:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGD6A-0006vM-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:27:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGD66-0003WA-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:27:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.135]:49651) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGD65-0003W5-QF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:27:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [128.30.9.95] ([128.30.9.95]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGbDM-1bBnFg2tpA-00DFdH; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:27:36 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <9c928ea6-6799-d096-de54-b2bf7ac140ec@yandex.ru> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qkWPNJoZkCCJowaoQOOo5RZLW590ZyMojvivlIyNlNLvo78ICGs skoeBCZYjxEczkK+8nyCoXGi7xY+oAyW9aKCTXvGnvayEioCWYIEbzT+ZSqg+/m+O+ScUkj PpD9OivecNBeNGdMg8ENUAIAOvCp1aLpTLUxm5wpSfqK8VsdZbrMg8PGuKHXtlH7JPTkJQY udR3OOEp0HZpMFHTKxzBw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:baTx7s2DK3s=:NvHyUXxOMb/bSlckB/eyji 8eYfaUnH0iqyslRX4dP3ta7a5YNGghsfK8K2qW8A10z3NXrxtdM7ENFtBNJGBT2c64kXQFgoP 0n2kDEOPoR50H7nvbm4+J0BPclHvjVvWszaaKZXGWNOxdrHaouoQ0ndzCnLzjK1Yo3+NFbUwP FfasU70uFdNaMhMSPjYgv/CYMtDTgJEDJD++0IQvJlUnSH8/JxtJu+p7Od71AdA6BX1FVbJKg Bh+PZXm4UQmbiQ9+QIuTzbe+Xb7T2YULtHlhTY0PdqCDqQGRlEBDv2qV26SjlDVjEqN8Zo2Wn 8dVW3dsyWRz2yQao0goMsGOSVDK109/zPt19V2ZFdRoOJT9n8OkB5MaJDuUH4Pn73TELlbk/j 0dpVlrXm3/lB5uLdhcALusUHdc/oHoY2C0fYOpDJsQQwyx4rwD7n3THWtIvy2CsLJHimssI5z sUxfIruYHPfXcr0ne3nJpNlxljKzMFxRd5Tt8lWDfNv3jAn+LfHvzNpnxHbJXvapqX1nYQV8l +Q3dltS4nA8NW7cNbOwGQWtUxxrs7xZoQ7neoGAKg5xPJ9lc5EZqFRXuAW5Reg2W4x7RlMWd5 2eiT8/OyOmDK0txt6wrNuxz1ig17yGnQqeQC7dSOpeSu0KBop/o3x2U1zDIAj0TbKd5Qq9DvD xkNkWTnSOxdjXpRQtUMTdgHpN7nkrPv39kZHP2HBaNfkFMBnRJFupEz1XAUpuFb8IiKY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.135 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204712 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kGv49wohsg638mFD2q3VI30rMkvHJseIG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="F68SgSJ4S4nmwSPhqiGMga9MMaVn1v2kf" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: Dmitry Gutov , Drew Adams , Emacs developers Message-ID: <576C6256.6060708@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Improving describe-mode and discoverability References: <576C2A6C.3090908@gmail.com> <576C59AF.7080902@gmail.com> <9c928ea6-6799-d096-de54-b2bf7ac140ec@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <9c928ea6-6799-d096-de54-b2bf7ac140ec@yandex.ru> --F68SgSJ4S4nmwSPhqiGMga9MMaVn1v2kf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-23 18:10, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 06/24/2016 01:07 AM, Drew Adams wrote: >=20 >>> Of course, we could put this behaviour behind a flag. >> >> If it is a new construct instead of a replacement for \\{...} >> then there is no need for a flag. >=20 > I'd prefer a flag (or just the new behavior). There's no need to split = the community here: if I user likes this output, they'll want to see it i= n all mode descriptions, not just the ones that opted in. I think I agree. Drew, wouldn't you think that this is something the user= should choose, instead of the mode author? As a user, I'd like consistent rendering; as a mode author, I'd rather no= t argue with my users about one which one looks best for each one of my m= odes. 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