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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:202742 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --uoTSVi38oW9gR1qEHSIV1jSP2xMhsubgC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="V302n58aMrcW6uP7gPorJPvRqQFCULAw2" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: rms@gnu.org Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: <5703D7BA.4070507@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Should the default value of url-user-agent include a version number? What about the specific case of package.el? References: <56F42269.10400@gmail.com> <05663DCE-3E5B-41E2-8657-460B2D013B49@lunaryorn.com> <570280D9.6030706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: --V302n58aMrcW6uP7gPorJPvRqQFCULAw2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/05/2016 03:53 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > It is not clear which one you are talking about. Are you talking=20 > about IceCat? If so, yes, that user-agent string is designed to > equal what many other machines on the net actually send. I meant IceCat. It sends its precise version, and it reveals that I'm usi= ng Firefox.=20 >> In any case, I don't think this point is relevant to the package.el >> part of this discussion. >=20 > Isn't url-user-agent used for ALL sites? If so, the question of what > to use is not part of a package.el discussion. Sorry, I don't understand your message. Part of this thread is about usin= g a different user-agent string for package.el. Here is an excerpt from m= y original message: >>> ... instead, wouldn't it be best for different parts of >>> Emacs to use different user-agent strings? In particular, should eww >>> and package.el really use the same User-Agent string? We could >>> instead introduce separate a package-user-agent variable, and >>> possibly an eww-user-agent variable Cl=C3=A9ment. --V302n58aMrcW6uP7gPorJPvRqQFCULAw2-- --uoTSVi38oW9gR1qEHSIV1jSP2xMhsubgC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJXA9e6AAoJEPqg+cTm90wj+MkP/2vjOcHa9VPXW/cZbvTaNOqc UT0RcNLDscKNQtXmDDzYkdjK6o7gxrJIsFC+4QTCJ9yi7lo0Y/j5CSP7c/BRnR/R l6kbIGUR9Bta1kmN+/Sr+Oe1dDTO1TBcB2hMGBmc9TA8qxFkfAJRjamZ7PPh/Ll5 0uUVxgSlQHPrxC7etwO/JMev5xRW9SrtIcGwE7YjW1U2NWtTpYxaDWgyBZbu+uwb BPEz7aOJXroQ2Ub46MxgI2u4XgsYVJrOn7wwlbWEQ+X2UCrwKJsRlspDy+s8PmUJ X9vC1Bh6DbCuTecUYYVY/LOsF5WlZgFd9Kz4Cyv+rKLlHCrNq5WQJhWWSxagIHkN TpLGbXQNMOob7PIZm9UL72qfvKsMgLJZw0W/MRWNoxRLdArMYYHkbeuIyfqLDm6k neFyiGxfXoP3GXiUQ5ekUP0Jli4dbh1DveTxR8aEUe5O9m/IfQ91LL7See3rm2Ed aypa3ETvkjmDvsC28h70KtCYdTCbTy5BObrsXz1SXu4nShbcvXpvBYZlAkzuxfTD +kp15EUbmb9OsxINk4lJOFM6flpEZvxg34FHGyy5WqrB+SukzmjTKgXJMIC/0sX2 SnzttnHj0HdeYetQIZdwe/ctNiHMfSk2Qihm9P+/G02yGgyyA2fW86sEXTuxMD0I Y2FMUYDDmND65S5UwoC1 =hxGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uoTSVi38oW9gR1qEHSIV1jSP2xMhsubgC--