From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 26b56dc: Fix some single quotes in documentation Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:24:55 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <56E701F7.6060101@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20160314154123.2684.74715@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <56E6E764.9090500@cs.ucla.edu> <83shztc7qg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457979933 22035 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2016 18:25:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 18:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 14 19:25:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1afXB7-00034Z-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 19:25:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXB7-0005a3-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:25:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXAt-0005ZO-4g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXAs-0006Jh-7G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:43384) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXAn-0006I8-6S; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAFE160E87; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id lwz6nR9LceKz; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB725160FF7; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YTSt8AMT3Wtt; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B37D7160E87; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: <83shztc7qg.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201733 Archived-At: On 03/14/2016 10:03 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Are we sure NEWS will always be read either in Emacs or on a terminal > that supports these characters? I frequently look at it with Less, > but maybe I'm alone. I use Less a lot too, and it works fine (Fedora 23). These days the problem with non-ASCII characters typically isn't the Less program, it's the terminal or operating system being misconfigured for UTF-8, or not supporting UTF-8. This problem is not limited to etc/NEWS of course; it occurs with all the UTF-8 source files. The question is whether etc/NEWS is enough of a special case that we should keep it in ASCII despite the rest of Emacs moving to UTF-8.