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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201380 Archived-At: 10.03.2016 16:08, Eli Zaretskii: >> Doing it this way will not change history. > > How can it not change history, when (AFAIK) the log message is part of > the commit object, and it included in the stuff that determines the > SHA1 checksum of the commit? As I understand it does not change original commit object, but rather creates kind of "replacement rule". In a similar manner as git notes attaches additional info to commit message without changing original one. If you would not fetch replacement refs then you will not see these "amendments". -- Evgeny Panasyuk