From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 71783e9: Add the string-numeric-lessp function Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:26:42 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <56DFEC52.6000505@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20160221043348.25201.81719@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87twl2fzaw.fsf@gnus.org> <56CA2C66.7040306@cs.ucla.edu> <87povpzc9c.fsf@gnus.org> <56CA8578.2030004@cs.ucla.edu> <87twl1xul1.fsf@gnus.org> <56CA8BB8.6040908@cs.ucla.edu> <8737s3jfrr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <56DCD115.30707@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3fllusk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <56DE33A2.20402@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457515625 20113 80.91.229.3 (9 Mar 2016 09:27:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 10:26:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adaOL-0005Br-9T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:26:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40140 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adaOK-0005gT-LV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:26:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adaOH-0005gN-IB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:26:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adaOE-0004AT-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:26:49 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:52485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adaOE-0004AO-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:26:46 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B394D160E8A; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:26:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 68F4WuTLEZ5y; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:26:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC605160E8D; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:26:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id GduUfyziQpst; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:26:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4F37160E8A; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:26:42 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201237 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > >> >Juri Linkov wrote: >>> >>Still this is the weirdest sorting order that I've ever seen >>> >>where single backups come before, but numbered backups after: >>> >> >>> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 158,018 Mar 8 01:04 dired.el~ >>> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 158,018 Mar 8 01:05 dired.el >>> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 158,018 Mar 8 01:01 dired.el.~1~ >>> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 158,018 Mar 8 01:02 dired.el.~2~ >>> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 158,018 Mar 8 01:03 dired.el.~3~ >> > >> >I like it, as it clearly separates the two backup styles in the hopefully >> >rare case where people have edited the same file with different backup >> >styles. (I don't use numbered backups so I don't run into the latter sort >> >of names much.) > How does that fit with your previous statement? It does and it doesn't. My previous statement was about the backup files I normally experience, which are like 'dired.el~'; I prefer seeing these files before the main file. I don't run into files like 'dired.el.~1~' often, as I prefer not to use that style. If I did run into them often, my first reaction was I like them segregated (as in the above) even at the cost of putting them out of "order". But now that you mention it, I suppose I should have gained more experience with this situation before expressing a preference. As the situation is unusual (at least for me), it's not likely I will gain experience with it any time soon. Anyway, most likely the situation is rare in general and is not worth worrying about.