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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265390 Archived-At: > Am 21.02.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Pip Cet : >=20 >=20 > Speaking of code changes, one thing I'm worried about is that one > developer on, say, Windows does something, forgets to adjust the tests > so there's a spurious failure on GNU/Linux, and then the next > GNU/Linux developer to touch the file will see a test failure that has > nothing to do with their changes. I don't have a good solution for > that one. The typical solution is to run CI pipelines for all supported platforms = and not allow pushing commits that fail any of the pipelines. In the = context of Emacs, there are still some downsides to this: it would = require running nonfree OSes, and right now the CI pipelines are still a = bit slow.=