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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197993 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kB6eWjNRwpA3NI4Ho4eqIATwCHVWte2Oj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/10/2016 10:27 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > This might be OK if the only reason you every use M-x is to execute a > command. But it's not. People (in particular, me) use it to discover > Emacs, to find the exact name of a command which has only vaguely > embedded itself in the memory, to get this name into the kill ring to b= e > yanked into another source file or into documentation, and so on. Try > M-x sometime, and explore the wealth of Emacs commands. > :-) Funny, that doesn't work at all for me. In particular because M-x already= heavily "censors" its results by only proposing interactive candidates. = So I use C-h f instead. And even then that doesn't work great, because of= ten it's in a package that isn't loaded (see my recent thread about pulse= =2Eel :/) When I'm specifically looking for a command, I use M-x; and it works well= right after starting Emacs (I get only autoloaded commands plus a few al= ready loaded things). 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