From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic modules: MODULE_HANDLE_SIGNALS etc. Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 07:29:09 -0800 Message-ID: <568A8FC5.1090804@dancol.org> References: <83mvu1x6t3.fsf@gnu.org> <567841A6.4090408@cs.ucla.edu> <567844B9.2050308@dancol.org> <5678CD07.8080209@cs.ucla.edu> <5678D3AF.7030101@dancol.org> <5678D620.6070000@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvt2qxm1.fsf@gnu.org> <56797CD9.8010706@cs.ucla.edu> <8337uuqsux.fsf@gnu.org> <5679DC83.70405@cs.ucla.edu> <83oadhp2mj.fsf@gnu.org> <567AD556.6020202@cs.ucla.edu> <567AD766.3060608@dancol.org> <567B5DAB.2000900@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuyromig.fsf@gnu.org> <567C25B1.3020101@dancol.org> <56892FD6.8040708@dancol.org> <568988EE.3010205@dancol.org> <56899278.9000007@dancol.org> <56899345.2040005@dancol.org> <83a8ol8iw2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nsPMPOrVTJ1dtDsgJGtFbPVtVwFVCEA9s" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451921371 32646 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2016 15:29:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 16:29:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aG74U-0003jY-PA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:29:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG74T-0003Ao-PE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:29:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47719) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG74Q-0003AV-8n for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:29:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG74L-0000ZC-AZ for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:29:18 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:46007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG74L-0000Z8-4Y; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:29:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=grHaWrTFQD7K4ssGOW+LwnsoMpA3op5ZSa32l3zMP2w=; b=lNGoCFh+XcVak699FfOvq0WwoW81SyUJ5pRrAtEc4dA8FFhHq3D5juN4oTSiUkw5UKL6LxGlhdbzneWmmtLsfHxx7zBbS9EoCt3gzNvf9rnZe7i3RLR2sd76fPiipqZd3VnrLwUDLke24P3ncwPWfd/ZZZu1QGdVv0CSBM19oK/csgWVns3aovKKI4LWojmIlpoPztD+UYkhbBPn8Q2No18FV9PQopgyGOeabqcJPC/5r/e5GP5+8FS6pcMZiLJOnVZja7LlZ02b4gDG5ga3p9Ki9A2kFg9dxRP3uUc8delFNllceX7s/b3b+jkdQmlMce2temwDnPWBrfLB7hrFNQ==; Original-Received: from c-67-161-115-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([67.161.115.4] helo=[192.168.1.210]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aG74K-00048y-OC; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 07:29:12 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 In-Reply-To: <83a8ol8iw2.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197582 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nsPMPOrVTJ1dtDsgJGtFbPVtVwFVCEA9s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2016 07:27 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Daniel Colascione >> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 13:31:49 -0800 >> >> I'd also support doing no auto-save at crash time. Auto-save should >> happen frequently enough anyway that users shouldn't lose much data wh= en >> a crash happens, and not auto-saving sidesteps a lot of robustness con= cerns. >=20 > I have my auto-save-timeout customized to 15 since about forever, but > I don't know what others will say about that. We should ask users > before changing this. >=20 > In any case, disabling auto-save at crash time is out of the question, > IMO. Precious stuff could come into a buffer from some fast source, > such as a program or a network connection, and in that case even > several seconds worth of data could be a lot. Removing auto-save from > the emergency shut down would be a terrible mistake. Emacs is not a safety-critical system. 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