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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197120 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --M4S2iwsemFrWWTkNcAcPM7DSg9Fac6dCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/29/2015 07:51 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > It was my understanding that it is fine to have features that a vol= unteer is > > willing to do the work for, just not to promote features that would= make a > > non-GNU platform more attractive (such as, by devoting any other re= sources to > > their development, or giving them special status in any way). >=20 > That is basically right. More precisely, we don't want GNU Emacs to gi= ve > people any practical reason to prefer some other system to GNU. Yet this is precisely what we do, unwillingly: GNU Emacs lack of features= on GNU Linux (compared to forks available on other systems) gives people= practical reasons to use a non-GNU Emacs, on a non-free platform (that's= where Emacs (but not GNU Emacs) works best). Thus not accepting these MacOS-specific features in GNU Emacs only encour= ages people to prefer a non-GNU fork of Emacs; it doesn't do anything to = prevent them from switching to a non-free platform. In conclusion, instea= d of using GNU Emacs on a non-free platform, people use a non-GNU Emacs o= n a non-free platform. --M4S2iwsemFrWWTkNcAcPM7DSg9Fac6dCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWgsowAAoJEPqg+cTm90wjz7kP/0gLzXh8lcZOOd0pQsQYhHnX GaMPujI9yTG7TOJtSL3QU8jv3Xx4SgLMPDFhm2u6s8xXGVN1owOJop9Iv5A24blJ 3NyPSLjAHKBl8yWFYTeJ7UizTAyITjidsVUcBYS8JDr18/XT2jVV7FPuzoKRsbp0 PZMksoSmjj9BL9DIKMBzv+vSKyb7UkPSxyfXfSyyEF5SU8oJ8A/C2UKSMABqxCNI e+awypTPvUlm0H+xEYF6oyVpvzEe8MyT2ZqIxLYGQs4KbvUEi6EoBO41UeNd/62Y 0mZ9xit7ctntlHIW+lxnmW+l5Tsy+diZ4oALBEyhJLvapoWlNSDFsg91jIdyywHp PCLe1mUYaFTCMU3HPGvTMfOk5ZWAGhyfKvu+SZhO2kCb0vcSUXVVfBG6oL6f2FuK 9eR/LW6hpShpz4onHIXlAAt5ufHopFgjJ8euvCA7/qyvdVK97OHVKa3Ie2KNjFIQ Cu5h/EXfYYN+A3MBx+hlO6a8YF6z24njJynk8SjU56ew/KWosC3eLZj914P8st02 u9vwxj2z++usfFzkrv45HfUl83D3eWE1bbHoApLz4fpMh+XeV6C8S+DCn1l+zlsv XYNj4Fe+OPYUKtK2hs8zhEqSR21ysROC+I49+kbUuJ0kJYqvqekZBVNeFr93kuNy JQe8nQdgeW2vHMy/SlUp =uYdH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M4S2iwsemFrWWTkNcAcPM7DSg9Fac6dCe--