From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic modules: MODULE_HANDLE_SIGNALS etc. Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:09:02 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5678E8FE.1010502@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83mvu1x6t3.fsf@gnu.org> <565779CD.80405@cs.ucla.edu> <83io4nuc68.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3iht93x.fsf@gnu.org> <838u4psznr.fsf@gnu.org> <56772054.8010401@cs.ucla.edu> <83zix4scgf.fsf@gnu.org> <5677DBC9.6030307@cs.ucla.edu> <83io3rst2r.fsf@gnu.org> <567841A6.4090408@cs.ucla.edu> <567844B9.2050308@dancol.org> <5678CD07.8080209@cs.ucla.edu> <5678D3AF.7030101@dancol.org> <5678D620.6070000@cs.ucla.edu> <5678D710.9010406@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450764566 24708 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2015 06:09:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 06:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com, p.stephani2@gmail.com, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 22 07:09:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aBG8I-0001y1-K9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 07:09:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48874 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBG8H-0005Np-No for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 01:09:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36893) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBG8D-0005NU-Lr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 01:09:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBG8C-0003iD-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 01:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:38519) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBG88-0003hX-VM; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 01:09:05 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C696416066A; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:09:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 966EF791GWhp; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:09:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA32160D02; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:09:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Rc-bigtFYNlB; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:09:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E65DD16066A; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:09:02 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 In-Reply-To: <5678D710.9010406@dancol.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196652 Archived-At: Daniel Colascione wrote: >> That would certainly be easier to implement! But as a user I would not >> >find it acceptable. > You find it acceptable in most other programs. ?! No, I don't find it acceptable for any program to dump core on stack overflow. And even if it were OK for (say) 'cat' to dump core due to stack overflow in a typical environment (which it's not), Emacs is more important than 'cat', because people use it as an interactive text editor and do not want to lose their work. >we already crash if we overflow the stack while we're GCing. If so, that's a bug that should get fixed. It's not an excuse to introduce similar bugs. Really, the idea that it's OK for Emacs to crash is a nonstarter. Emacs should not crash.