From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH PING] Honor 'SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH' when generating autoloads. Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:27:46 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <56771D52.2070406@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87k2ph3mgx.fsf@gnu.org> <87io4lnkyz.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvtwoktg.fsf@gnu.org> <878u5gkakj.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8pwoesc.fsf@gnu.org> <87two3475d.fsf@gnu.org> <5665D6B9.4030309@cs.ucla.edu> <5665DAA1.2080208@cs.ucla.edu> <83k2o9t6t1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450646896 532 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2015 21:28:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 21:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 20 22:28:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aAlWQ-0002Va-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 22:28:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42088 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAlWP-0002D5-TW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:28:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAlWD-0002CR-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:27:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAlWC-0007YF-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:27:53 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:36365) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aAlW8-0007Xi-DR; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A77160017; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:27:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id kgE-0RRw7yyi; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:27:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD7160193; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:27:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id VTblgvYeNfYa; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:27:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCE35160017; Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:27:46 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196572 Archived-At: Philipp Stephani wrote: > I'd prefer to have > this configurable at runtime so that a single Emacs binary can be used to > produce both deterministic and non-deterministic outpu I'd rather not have Emacs's behavior depend on yet another environment variable. There are already too many such environment variables and they are a maintenance and configuration pain. Instead, I suggest making it a configure-time option, e.g., ./configure --enable-deterministic-build I suppose Emacs code could also set the new Elisp deterministic-build variable that you're suggesting, to override the configure-time default. But not an environment variable, please.