From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH PING] Honor 'SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH' when generating autoloads. Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:58:01 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5665D6B9.4030309@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87k2ph3mgx.fsf@gnu.org> <87io4lnkyz.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvtwoktg.fsf@gnu.org> <878u5gkakj.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8pwoesc.fsf@gnu.org> <87two3475d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449514719 31933 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2015 18:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: alezost@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani , =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=c3=a8s?= , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 07 19:58:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a60zV-0004C9-Hu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:58:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56046 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60zU-000482-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60z9-00042q-It for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:58:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60z8-00055r-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:58:07 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:49631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60z4-00054C-NQ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F265D1605E4; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 5NHg-wql_joG; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50988160817; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id FuwG00fH1bj1; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 375B41605E4; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195965 Archived-At: On 12/07/2015 10:36 AM, Philipp Stephani wrote: > As a rough sketch, Emacs could be made to detect an environment > variable such as EMACS_DETERMINISTIC_BUILD, causing various code paths > in the core and in the Elisp files to become deterministic. Would that > be feasible? Let's just fix Emacs so that its builds are deterministic. Long ago perhaps there was a good reason to put cruft like hostnames into build products, but those days are gone.