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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195842 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dIMWBEwhMKDtbXOpWXR9JoqL7vGwtX6vl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, I'm not sure if you were answering Nicolas or me; my comments applied to = the redesign, which I feel is a great step in making the website more wel= coming. On 12/04/2015 12:26 AM, John Yates wrote: > My point was that mentioning things that we - as seasoned users of > Emacs - like is quite a bit different from imagining the website as a > sales pitch to someone who has not used Emacs but _might_ - given an > appropriate message - be coaxed into trying it. If you accept such > messaging as the site's first goal then you have to try to put > yourself in the mindset of such a viewer. Well, I only started using Emacs seriously a year and a half ago :) On 12/03/2015 11:17 PM, John Yates wrote: > * Newbies likely have a long, long road to travel before they will > ever consider discarding their current GUI / WYSIWYG / web-based > productivity tools for Emacs' text-only calendar, mail project > planning packages. And even seasoned users still use graphical tools sometimes, judging by t= he fact that you write to this list from GMail's web interface :) Cl=C3=A9ment. --dIMWBEwhMKDtbXOpWXR9JoqL7vGwtX6vl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWYNdRAAoJEPqg+cTm90wjcDkP/j0/V9XPz0WKZdvn39PTKmGk Yuz9H5C4iHxqxgOza6c9yfAWydPXsZb0qTSjTpRH4pR5MxU8dgGxpGprvwvaOJHS ROklY6l+vdLohxWvuezQr6Wjk13bYmLmu5bVG3FRwfChl6Me4fscdolIKuGD2gMh 85/XT5ah9ByaSfMDRjMPCJEmLNCViDNrP226uiVonEUch+rO7slKSucaGyEGZYii b7pNCZr25KY1e2uS6PNqX2NaC3QPKR5lCDwo9n2u9vJk5nw3oap1p1i5Y6bKwPl5 523TCzzTJSyt4Mq5Se4Z+Q1wWy9X5Q3SK7zUqHq3PGFqxxaBmUGdRuZWmLCpRAUQ rnBRnSZurKqx1WzrWLRIphCObDqe3ew/D6+OxgR/ttHQRttZ3psgwq1HBCGTOKuK s5oQnGLgGsNeurGla8n0XAFD/unq5CkVBYMV03eU0XUyMRX5o0SddRC9rMesaIoS rVEiqoaiXpO0zpnYtDPEsdCQgDphXq7++TXUnvIN11vY2dKnp+L4ybAme40rQrYi Z0CGBNJlXwfe7gyVg/G1Kx3U/9t+1Ea5LEpqwFvNw9vwGDEs4HKsmUb4MziFn0Q0 BmPPx/NjWYQqI7vkJ0JNdkUoK8igkI2vcnTjXa1dI+h+xz6EQSS3Vs+GZgo4zIX3 m816Sy3Pc3fe0RtkNg5R =gte6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dIMWBEwhMKDtbXOpWXR9JoqL7vGwtX6vl--