From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: First draft of the Emacs website Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:17:34 +0200 Message-ID: <565B170E.7010407@yandex.ru> References: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448810274 25064 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2015 15:17:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:17:54 +0000 (UTC) To: Nicolas Petton , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 29 16:17:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a33jR-00009Y-3r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:17:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36624 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a33jV-0000tw-5P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:17:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a33jQ-0000tn-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:17:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a33jN-0000O2-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:17:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]:34512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a33jN-0000Nw-7s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:17:37 -0500 Original-Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so124183027wmv.1 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:17:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZRaR9isqnjihYnhARJtyD+OwzdENUEDLqlW7laI5NSk=; b=JGqUXZLEZ8Bf/2xBfjHdjrNFEG1JcY3KUswZwxkVBo/Xlwu0k9WYGhbbuOoVNSsMXq bl0pno+DgTTpbRjC5RT09J+DIoi2tOq/dBiZSMTUJ3eSyir5rlgFM2pkH2us/wUZ0PPy /W02zzEmNuWlRtkCz6doJ8LSutyi8JCAnIjNaCVb1vo1kXS3H28xSUGmWvQY7YPhooPQ LSzq2WDmhvLuGXJbqdlKi8Dk9G8VsjtV48ptQiGatDC3gdPON/HDnncEpEPa9kBvtCtf PneeKWM0FOm39cuWZM7IRS26ITaHDL7vsc8dIMDmfdpBRXWzgcWRPFeZET0oK2xkHlEJ EN+g== X-Received: by 10.194.178.135 with SMTP id cy7mr16191832wjc.61.1448810256430; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:17:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c194sm17067114wmd.13.2015.11.29.07.17.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:17:35 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/42.0 In-Reply-To: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195534 Archived-At: Hi Nicolas, On 11/29/2015 01:29 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote: > I think I'm ready to show my work on the website of Emacs: > > http://nicolas-petton.fr/ressources/emacs-website/ Thank you for your efforts. I think the current look is already better that the homepage we have now, but nevertheless, I think it exemplifies one of my pet peeves in UI design: using different contrast levels in different parts of a web page (or an application). Every part, by itself, looks very nice (*): I like the colors chosen for every section, and the dashed look of the download buttons makes a good impression if I just narrow my attention to that part of the web page. But if we look at the first page, the "GNU Emacs" logo, and the screenshot, are much brighter than the rest of the section. Which makes the download buttons fade into background. That might complicate life for vision-impaired visitors, for instance. The rest of the sections are clear, but as I scroll down the page, my eyes have to adjust to a different level of contrast as I look at each new section. I usually shy away from dark themes (and dark designs in general), because most websites and applications use light-background themes, but I think a design should at least be consistent internally, and pick just one side. Just my opinion. Cheers, Dmitry. (*) Regarding the "Releases" color set, I think it's good, and I'd rather you did something to the second section: it jumps out as very high-contrast, for some reason.