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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261743 Archived-At: >> There are two orthogonal issues here: Whether to enable recursive >> minibuffers and whether to allow leaving the minibuffer window while >> asking a 'y-or-n-p' question. The above addresses the latter only. > > Isn't that enough to solve the problem which started this thread? I'm not sure. For example, we can currently nest an invocation of a 'yes-or-no-p' question within the scope of a 'y-or-n-p' question. This was impossible before and means that the user will either still be able to leave the minibuffer window even when it was locked by a 'y-or-n-p' (if we adopt the environmental solution I mentioned in the other thread) or that a nested 'yes-or-no-p' question no longer allows to leave the minibuffer window. Maybe these are just contrived cases but I have no idea how many similar, more realistic ones exist. martin