From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: aaronecay@gmail.com, Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ELPA policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:15:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5640C6A0.5010709@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ziynma4s.fsf@gnu.org>
On 11/09/2015 06:05 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Nothing prevents us from making the same arrangements in the Emacs
> repository as we have in ELPA, and then users could add the Emacs
> repository to their list of sites that package.el knows about.
Create yet another package archive? With a separate publishing mechanism?
> Besides, most core packages don't need any elaborate setup, you just
> drop them in and restart Emacs.
"Just drop them in" doesn't address the issue of package updates, not in
the slightest.
> How will that change if we move them outside Emacs? It's not like
> there's some magic at ELPA that just putting a package there magically
> resolves all these issues. And if someone will have to work on that,
> she can do that without moving the package aside.
They will be forced to declare the required Emacs version, for one. And
abide by it.
But yes, that's also possible to do inside the Emacs repo.
>> There were different suggestions, with different degrees between "let's
>> move Org and Gnus out" and "let's move everything out".
>
> I didn't see any.
All right, then. Let me make one right now: let's move out Org, Gnus and
CEDET. And consider doing that with any other big codebase that's also
maintained separately (Calc comes to mind).
There have been objections to doing that for each of these packages, but
there you go. Suggestion made.
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2015-11-04 12:39 streams are cool, you could stream virtually anything! Nicolas Petton
2015-11-04 15:50 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-04 16:59 ` Damien Cassou
2015-11-04 18:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-04 19:17 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-04 21:58 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-04 23:20 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-04 23:31 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 0:27 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 0:38 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-05 0:48 ` ELPA policy (Was: streams are cool, you could stream virtually anything!) John Wiegley
2015-11-05 0:52 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-08 17:18 ` ELPA policy Achim Gratz
2015-11-08 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:52 ` Aaron Ecay
2015-11-09 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 3:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-09 11:15 ` New ELPA policy proposal (was: ELPA policy) Oleh Krehel
2015-11-09 13:51 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 15:02 ` New ELPA policy proposal Oleh Krehel
2015-11-09 16:22 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 15:41 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-11-09 15:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-09 16:13 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-11-09 21:50 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-09 16:25 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 16:11 ` New ELPA policy proposal (was: ELPA policy) Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 7:26 ` New ELPA policy proposal Oleh Krehel
2015-11-10 14:24 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 16:05 ` ELPA policy Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 16:15 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2015-11-09 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 16:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-09 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 17:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-09 16:35 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 19:52 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-09 20:17 ` Achim Gratz
2015-11-09 21:38 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 20:07 ` Achim Gratz
2015-11-09 21:51 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-09 22:06 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-09 23:05 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-10 18:18 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 15:11 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-11 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-09 23:47 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-09 23:44 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-09 23:42 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-09 23:52 ` Aaron Ecay
2015-11-10 0:04 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:06 ` Stephen Leake
[not found] ` <"<87lha5snji.fsf"@isaac.fritz.box>
[not found] ` <"<87d1vhsmuj.fsf"@isaac.fritz.box>
[not found] ` <"<878u65slue.fsf"@isaac.fritz.box>
[not found] ` <"<874mgtsjwn.fsf"@isaac.fritz.box>
2015-11-10 18:28 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 18:35 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:44 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 18:49 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 20:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-11 15:15 ` xref and GNU Global (Re: ELPA policy) Nicolas Petton
2015-11-11 15:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-11 23:19 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-11 23:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-12 7:07 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-11 23:12 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-11 23:52 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-12 7:05 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 19:15 ` ELPA policy Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 22:44 ` xref CEDET (was ELPA policy) Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 21:52 ` ELPA policy Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 18:37 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 19:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 20:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 20:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 21:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 22:40 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 20:45 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 21:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 18:43 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 18:52 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:58 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 19:03 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 19:20 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 19:43 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 20:02 ` David Engster
2015-11-10 20:24 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 23:08 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 23:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 0:32 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-11 0:36 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 9:25 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-11 13:52 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-11 21:22 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-12 13:24 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-12 17:11 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12 19:17 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-12 19:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-14 10:16 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-12 19:52 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-13 13:06 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-14 10:30 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-17 13:01 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-17 16:18 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-17 15:51 ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-11 17:02 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 17:24 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12 14:02 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-12 17:11 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12 19:59 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-13 21:58 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-14 1:15 ` JJ Asghar
2015-11-14 17:23 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2015-11-15 16:37 ` John Wiegley
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[not found] ` <<E1ZwYnH-0004b0-Gu@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-11-11 17:47 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-11 19:23 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 19:58 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-11 23:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-12 0:35 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 0:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-12 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-13 0:49 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 6:49 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-12 15:09 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-12 17:29 ` Alex Schröder
2015-11-12 22:33 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-14 10:33 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-14 21:05 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<86oaezemp9.fsf@stephe-leake.org>
[not found] ` <<E1Zx0QR-0004QE-Ga@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-11-12 23:05 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-13 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-13 22:00 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1ZxMOr-0004hb-VH@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-11-13 23:03 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-14 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-15 9:28 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-15 15:44 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-17 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-17 23:17 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-18 9:53 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-18 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-14 9:57 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <<m2twosgx1m.fsf@Vulcan.attlocal.net>
[not found] ` <<E1Zwent-0000bG-9i@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-11-12 0:22 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-10 23:01 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 22:53 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 23:10 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 22:52 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 18:54 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-10 19:29 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 20:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 23:25 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 23:23 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-10 23:16 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 22:36 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-10 22:54 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-11 9:13 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-11 14:58 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-09 18:22 ` Achim Gratz
2015-11-09 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 18:58 ` David Engster
2015-11-09 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 19:35 ` David Engster
2015-11-09 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 19:53 ` Rasmus
2015-11-09 19:58 ` Achim Gratz
2015-11-05 17:06 ` streams and generators (was: streams are cool, you could stream virtually anything!) Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-05 22:36 ` streams and generators Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-04 23:34 ` streams are cool, you could stream virtually anything! Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-05 9:27 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 11:26 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 11:52 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 16:31 ` raman
2015-11-05 16:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-05 21:58 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 23:05 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 23:34 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-06 0:02 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 0:39 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-05 23:52 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-06 2:19 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 2:47 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-06 15:09 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-06 10:49 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-06 13:09 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 13:43 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-06 15:41 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 16:13 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 17:36 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-06 10:47 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-06 2:08 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 15:33 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-06 16:08 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 17:12 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 23:06 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 14:12 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-04 17:00 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-04 22:00 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 12:28 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-05 13:45 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 15:15 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-05 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 9:54 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-04 17:57 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-11-04 22:00 ` Nicolas Petton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-04 17:36 Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Drew Adams
2020-05-05 7:25 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-05 10:14 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 11:57 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-05 13:07 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 14:47 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-05 16:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 4:45 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-06 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-06 14:04 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-07 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-07 3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 7:23 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-07 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 2:47 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-08 3:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 6:54 ` ELPA policy (was: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 14:57 ` ELPA policy Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-09 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 7:35 ` David Engster
2020-05-09 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 8:16 ` David Engster
2020-05-09 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 8:43 ` David Engster
2020-05-09 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 10:13 ` David Engster
2020-05-09 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 10:29 ` David Engster
2020-05-09 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 11:15 ` David Engster
2020-05-10 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 11:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-09 15:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 22:34 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-05 2:14 Proposed new core library: pl.el John Wiegley
2015-11-05 2:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05 2:41 ` ELPA policy (was: Proposed new core library: pl.el) John Wiegley
2015-11-05 3:00 ` ELPA policy Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05 9:08 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 12:51 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2015-11-05 13:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05 14:41 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2015-11-05 15:09 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 15:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-05 16:58 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 17:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-06 21:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-08 16:30 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-08 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 18:00 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-11-08 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-09 0:53 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-11-08 18:26 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-11-08 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 19:27 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-08 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:04 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-08 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-08 20:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 20:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-08 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 23:16 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-09 1:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-09 2:59 ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-08 19:55 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 9:25 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-05 7:13 ` David Kastrup
2010-11-15 15:40 Julien Danjou
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2010-11-15 18:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-15 20:33 ` Chong Yidong
2010-11-15 21:06 ` Edward O'Connor
2010-11-16 3:26 ` Glenn Morris
2010-11-15 18:50 ` Tom Tromey
2010-11-15 22:10 ` Glenn Morris
2010-11-15 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-15 20:12 ` Chong Yidong
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