From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: beginning-of-defun (again) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: <56331269.1040804@online.de> References: <56320200.4050503@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446187627 14334 80.91.229.3 (30 Oct 2015 06:47:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 30 07:46:56 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs3Sg-0007VS-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:46:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs3Sf-0003Mp-VP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:46:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36299) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs3Sb-0003Mf-RU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:46:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs3SY-0001Pv-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.24]:59278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs3SY-0001Pn-81; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:46:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.31] ([77.6.191.147]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjaQK-1aTbCb2Lwu-00bXFM; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:46:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:nI69cZXPdT6RJA+aC7uYNJoPpq3BbCxY3LXJ8lfJwy9avH4J0wZ B2bpFn+hzcwlVSIUwW+8p2ocJjUSbozsKtqGiyDIp+I4/IBm1sPZlGJxJ6nmTHYaFVyTb9W qKPzFCAraO5JDiVVjUjCIrCqpKV3l2ylX4FFeXFY0UdesP11P9PhpiYaBX+hpuDIBQzT7G1 bUrij8g7sgQgQ2NgsKbMw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+/4nU5DXeMw=:HilXMPBIRKgvkWbTFtW1M2 CHaCbOHPcTyuHKOAWvdZMatw3NN38DM9ZRl6Az0QqXkQyt6yNxPXklwh10DwrmuXnN1GrDcH1 pOVFtnXUxED8lCzs3/PKD0Tp4AU5B5XNjBYMjQcJYVOl7OBN0eW4pL12uj2UkQPhFYIrRvpmR 30YMCEIFZ4Fe3ijLF/2W3p7kVosPmz6oX6HnpC3DEA05NiwQr5V9v+hUarU68OZo2xt8Ixsxt bxk1Hx4DMlJ+XVm2L6s93b38aXOt7VSvDijko2Oh8+KX27L96NQ60oHtu4DHJI8RzRML5JbSR PJlwedV6C/RWcC9aIxAI6EDRPK6dwdwFdHLJ/cqcbg3LHDBLF8dY3hkb/SUvQWK9KH/O59f+o WPtgxTMs7/zVbNUzAWTMqB+WjMk0hlBZGJ/Y8yQGhypFWCPSiF7YkVxsJLtLhH/kri4FOmNWw GXYV3j9ILbG+pYAaDcT+tNqCstTV0rAR0hODb7J/sdCh+J4OxJAyP4yJHgz3anyktsm5fzH4c XnpK9olUAr9ekORvNVj9s5nccsqTmJlFBx7teARV+JMiyd6etYEEYfBdg1yPMwJ2pWgGbRkPj t96icOlPWG292sfxhIwXr9PYXqFgGJoJzlA3BkCaUXSF/JC8/kh8lI5zjvDAMV/qO9SFZ5AAr BrTtyt8MFmuLPaEZnRgxyZnU2SjvwaNkaPNxg059ncWNdYCooZSLcNE3zkYsDj5+VnmpwBEC1 4CMnu1t3br5VM1qq X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.24 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192944 Archived-At: On 30.10.2015 02:34, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > A function resp. top-level-form starts if the beginning of a list is > > followed by a respective keyword. > > That is not so. Top level forms can call lots of functions. > A parenthesis in column zero is the best criterion to use. > It is simple and flexible; users can easily control it. > With emacs -Q, C-M-a from behind example below, stops at "(bar)", missing the beginning of function. (defun foo () (insert " (bar)")) Would call that buggy-by-design. Whilst there is no need for this bug... BTW how do you easily control it?