From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:54:59 +0200 Message-ID: <5630E1C3.70603@yandex.ru> References: <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <871tcyexa9.fsf@fimbulvetr.bsc.es> <87612a7my2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <561DC925.5050001@siege-engine.com> <561E32D2.4060501@yandex.ru> <83wpum3ozk.fsf@gnu.org> <87si59ln6u.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <56224B63.3010803@yandex.ru> <562592ED.1070104@siege-engine.com> <56262577.70107@yandex.ru> <562702C2.6070505@gmail.com> <56276ECE.3090508@yandex.ru> <56281747.9050305@gmail.com> <56282664.3000409@yandex.ru> <56283D79.2070904@gmail.com> <5628C5E7.5060803@yandex.ru> <5628DD6C.6000408@gmail.com> <56303005.4030808@yandex.ru> <5630B405.40007@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446044117 26255 80.91.229.3 (28 Oct 2015 14:55:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Ludlam , David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 28 15:55:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrS89-0007HF-G8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:55:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrS88-0000DL-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:55:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrS82-00005s-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrS7y-0001Hj-Uv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]:35852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrS7y-0001HW-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: by wicfx6 with SMTP id fx6so201351740wic.1 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:55:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sst+bjXOWRSK2d6kuZOCux4BbWgrdyPQQkktYu87+2s=; b=ebZeUzN3ikwOi7urLNB6LfRQ0rnM6RNdFWozMMmcUmMmR/rgAfIUgFhNKMwCLTGO2i qtXdKgfSHLU5hMRsG4wv4HcwwS9Gs3PyxQptrnBfbenjBnU+T6WASsv+chJyDq2/22iQ Za+Fsodxmwhk1w5RmGrTn35z0lKMcsjyPegKKoO/ASstBNO1pUIovrieIE1MdQuwarSF 2WAHKDxVNfAbiZoVm2rxOP8ZdAUHQUxIKen+v9LkOURiEK9UvsCyVpB4LT1R5QL/1yzj MJc/eqNzr71EWkB3edPlSNimMe0yeEgHrqUjkW4xQ0vQptv3VkrlJxF/n866DWmGI5WU wuvw== X-Received: by 10.180.91.15 with SMTP id ca15mr3152028wib.40.1446044102217; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e79sm4718670wmd.16.2015.10.28.07.55.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:55:01 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/42.0 In-Reply-To: <5630B405.40007@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192797 Archived-At: On 10/28/2015 01:39 PM, Eric Ludlam wrote: > Did you enable semantic-mode? The buffer would need to be parsed for > the data to be available, and for the prompt to have completion. Yes, that was the problem, thanks. It works, and looks kinda nice. > This is a good point. I always have thought about language independence > and extensibility, but most folks are just trying to solve a problem and > may not be interested in extending to anything else. One way to encourage wider applicability is to offer smaller, maybe less-functional, but more generic APIs. > I've built many little tools over the years, but perhaps they are > observed as parts of CEDET core, and not as examples. The semantic-ia > functions were supposed to be examples for how to use the > infrastructure, but users have ended up using them as their interface > and they became more complex. Maybe it would be better if they were more polished and fully-functional, instead.