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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294027 Archived-At: On 24.08.2022 16:22, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:05:14 +0300 >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >> On 24.08.2022 15:43, Angelo Graziosi wrote: >>> For completeness I attached the old, emacs-old-icons.png, current in master, result. >>> >>> In my opinion, the old is better... >> Thanks. >> >> I think the new one is better. > But "the new one" looks black-and-white here? I doubt losing colors > is going to be loved. The exact (two) colors are themable with faces, I suppose, but yes, we do lose a little "character' that way. OTOH, black-and-white has much higher odds of being compatible with an arbitrary color themes/desktops/toolkits, so it should be a good choice just by being neutral. Unlike the previous icon set which only really fit the default GNOME 2 palette. And if we really wanted more character, we should order our own icon set. Perhaps ask some volunteer designer, to make sure they fit the default color theme, or to create a new color theme as well. It's a big project, so wouldn't exactly rely on this happening in time for Emacs 29.