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From: "Davis Herring" <herring@lanl.gov>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:56:05 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56299.128.165.123.18.1225842965.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081104T225640-544@post.gmane.org>

Jason Spiro wrote:
>> >  Web Tour
>
> *  I don't like the World Wide Web.  If I were an Emacs newbie, I
> would not click "Web Tour".  I would click "Tutorial" instead.  So I
> would miss out on the tour.  I Is there any way for us to tell Help
> menu viewers that the tour describes a much wider variety of useful
> features for programmers and others, but the tutorial covers only text
> editing basics?  Maybe name the menu items "Tutorial (for
> non-programmers only)" and "Web Tour (for everyone)"?

As Stefan said, the name "Web Tour" seems to suggest a tour of and not on
the WWW, and the hyperlink nature of it is also odd.  Perhaps both of
those concerns can be alleviated by renaming it to something like "Feature
Tour (Web)".  Then what it describes is made explicit, and it should no
longer be a surprise that it is a hyperlink.  The presence of the word
"Web" might still put you off, but I suspect that the number of (even
potential) Emacs newbies in 2008 that avoid using the WWW is rather small
(probably smaller than the number of Emacs users who do so).

Davis

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-27 19:37 minor suggestions for splash screen Drew Adams
2007-01-30 10:38 ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Jason Spiro
2007-01-30 11:06   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial David Kastrup
2007-01-30 11:23     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-01-31 13:28       ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-30 11:32     ` Jason Spiro
2007-01-31  4:00       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-31  8:18         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-30 20:26   ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-30 20:49     ` Jason Spiro
2008-06-30 15:56     ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-07-06 21:57       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 22:21         ` evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:30           ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:33             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  7:02           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 21:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04  2:47         ` Please add a Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 18:15           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04 19:05             ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 19:42             ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 20:09               ` Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 20:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:03                       ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:07                         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:38                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 22:09                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 22:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 23:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-05  4:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 20:46                 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:19                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-04 21:37                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:34                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 21:44                       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:25                 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 21:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 21:44                     ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:30                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-04 22:04                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:10                     ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-04 23:56                       ` Davis Herring [this message]
2008-11-05  0:11                         ` Drew Adams
2008-11-05  0:06                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-04 23:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 23:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 18:23           ` Please add a Drew Adams

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