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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: "Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer" <taylanbayirli@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote.
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:35:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56285991.5040004@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k2qhgyk1.fsf@T420.taylan>

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On 10/20/2015 11:55 AM, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer wrote:
> Paul Eggert<eggert@cs.ucla.edu>  writes:
>
>> >Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer wrote:
>>>> >>>I must have missed it then, because all I remember are the cases (1)
>>>>> >>> >of running /bin/if (which is trivial and is not a realistic example),
>>>>> >>> >and (2) of installations with nonstandard shells (a problem that
>>>>> >>> >shqq--quote-string does not fix). It has been a long thread; quite
>>>>> >>> >possibly I missed something.
>>> >>Yeah, you missed the part about risk of code injection.:-)
>> >
>> >Code injection occurs because of (2), right? So it's not a risk that
>> >shqq--quote-string would put much of a dent in.
> Sorry, no, that's not the problem.
>
>
> So after four days of incredibly tiresome repetition, people still don't
> understand the basic issue.

That's right, we don't. At least, I don't, and your recent responses 
haven't clarified things for me. That being said, I guessed as to what 
you're driving at, and installed the attached patch into the Emacs 
master. Although the new documentation section is pretty sketchy, 
perhaps it can be fleshed out by people who have more time to worry 
about this sort of thing.

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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:22:34 -0700
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This attempts to document some of the issues recently discussed
on emacs-devel, and to indicate other such issues.  The section
could be a lot longer.
* doc/lispref/os.texi (Security Considerations):
New node.
* doc/lispref/elisp.texi (Top):
* doc/lispref/processes.texi (Shell Arguments):
* lisp/subr.el (shell-quote-argument):
* src/callproc.c (syms_of_callproc):
Reference it.
---
 doc/lispref/elisp.texi     |   1 +
 doc/lispref/os.texi        | 104 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 doc/lispref/processes.texi |   2 +-
 lisp/subr.el               |   3 +-
 src/callproc.c             |   2 +-
 5 files changed, 109 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/lispref/elisp.texi b/doc/lispref/elisp.texi
index 5ca518e..2d3548f 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/elisp.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/elisp.texi
@@ -1487,6 +1487,7 @@ Top
 * Desktop Notifications::   Desktop notifications.
 * File Notifications::      File notifications.
 * Dynamic Libraries::       On-demand loading of support libraries.
+* Security Considerations:: Running Emacs in an unfriendly environment.
 
 Starting Up Emacs
 
diff --git a/doc/lispref/os.texi b/doc/lispref/os.texi
index 204055d..1925bd5 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/os.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi
@@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ System Interface
 * Desktop Notifications:: Desktop notifications.
 * File Notifications::  File notifications.
 * Dynamic Libraries::   On-demand loading of support libraries.
+* Security Considerations:: Running Emacs in an unfriendly environment.
 @end menu
 
 @node Starting Up
@@ -2760,3 +2761,106 @@ Dynamic Libraries
 This variable is ignored if the given @var{library} is statically
 linked into Emacs.
 @end defvar
+
+@node Security Considerations
+@section Security Considerations
+@cindex security
+@cindex hardening
+
+Like any application, Emacs can be run in a secure environment, where
+the operating system enforces rules about access and the like.  With
+some care, Emacs-based applications can also be part of a security
+perimeter that checks such rules.  Although the default settings for
+Emacs work well for a typical software development environment, they
+may require adjustment in environments containing untrusted users that
+may include attackers.  Here is a compendium of security issues that
+may be helpful if you are developing such applications.  It is by no
+means complete; it is intended to give you an idea of the security
+issues involved, rather than to be a security checklist.
+
+@table @asis
+@item Access control
+Although Emacs normally respects access permissions of the underlying
+operating system, in some cases it handles accesses specially.  For
+example, file names can have handlers that treat the files specially,
+with their own access checking.  @xref{Magic File Names}.  Also, a
+buffer can be read-only even if the corresponding file is writeable,
+and vice versa, which can result in messages such as @samp{File passwd
+is write-protected; try to save anyway? (yes or no)}.  @xref{Read Only
+Buffers}.
+
+@item Authentication
+Emacs has several functions that deal with passwords, e.g.,
+@code{password-read}.  Although these functions do not attempt to
+broadcast passwords to the world, their implementations are not proof
+against determined attackers with access to Emacs internals.  For
+example, even if Elisp code attempts to scrub a password from
+its memory after using it, remnants of the password may still reside
+in the garbage-collected free list.
+
+@item Code injection
+Emacs can send commands to many other applications, and applications
+should take care that strings sent as operands of these commands are
+not misinterpreted as directives.  For example, when sending a shell
+command to rename a file @var{a} to @var{b}, do not simply use the
+string @code{mv @var{a} @var{b}}, because either file name might start
+with @samp{-}, or might contain shell metacharacters like @samp{;}.
+Although functions like @code{shell-quote-argument} can help avoid
+this sort of problem, they are not panaceas; for example, on a POSIX
+platform @code{shell-quote-argument} quotes shell metacharacters but
+not leading @samp{-}.  @xref{Shell Arguments}.
+
+@item Coding systems
+Emacs attempts to infer the coding systems of the files and network
+connections it accesses.  If it makes a mistake, or if the other
+parties to the network connection disagree with Emacs's deductions,
+the resulting system could be unreliable.  Also, even when it infers
+correctly, Emacs often can use bytes that other programs cannot.  For
+example, although to Emacs the NUL (all bits zero) byte is just a
+character like any other, many other applications treat it as a string
+terminator and mishandle strings or files containing NUL bytes.
+
+@item Environment and configuration variables
+POSIX specifies several environment variables that can affect how
+Emacs behaves.  Any environment variable whose name consists entirely
+of uppercase ASCII letters, digits, and the underscore may affect the
+internal behavior of Emacs.  Emacs uses several such variables, e.g.,
+@env{EMACSLOADPATH}.  @xref{Library Search}.  On some platforms some
+environment variables (e.g., @env{PATH}, @env{POSIXLY_CORRECT},
+@env{SHELL}, @env{TMPDIR}) need to have properly-configured values in
+order to get standard behavior for any utility Emacs might invoke.
+Even seemingly-benign variables like @env{TZ} may have security
+implications.
+
+Emacs has customization and other variables with similar
+considerations.  For example, if the variable @code{shell-file-name}
+specifies a shell with nonstandard behavior, an Emacs-based
+application may misbehave.
+
+@item Installation
+When Emacs is installed, if the installation directory hierarchy can
+be modified by untrusted users, the application cannot be trusted.
+This applies also to the directory hierarchies of the programs that
+Emacs uses, and of the files that Emacs reads and writes.
+
+@item Network access
+Emacs often accesses the network, and you may want to configure it to
+avoid network accesses that it would normally do.  For example, unless
+you set @code{tramp-mode} to @code{nil}, file names using a certain
+syntax are interpreted as being network files, and are retrieved
+across the network.  @xref{Top, The Tramp Manual,, tramp, The Tramp
+Manual}.
+
+@item Race conditions
+Emacs applications have the same sort of race-condition issues that
+other applications do.  For example, even when
+@code{(file-readable-p "foo.txt")} returns @code{t}, it could be that
+@file{foo.txt} is unreadable because some other program changed the
+file's permissions between the call to @code{file-readable-p} and now.
+
+@item Resource limits
+When Emacs exhausts memory or other operating system resources, its
+behavior can be less reliable, in that computations that ordinarily
+run to completion may abort back to the top level.  This may cause
+Emacs to neglect operations that it normally would have done.
+@end table
diff --git a/doc/lispref/processes.texi b/doc/lispref/processes.texi
index 196cb7c..0ce696a 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/processes.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/processes.texi
@@ -180,7 +180,7 @@ Shell Arguments
 Precisely what this function does depends on your operating system.  The
 function is designed to work with the syntax of your system's standard
 shell; if you use an unusual shell, you will need to redefine this
-function.
+function.  @xref{Security Considerations}.
 
 @example
 ;; @r{This example shows the behavior on GNU and Unix systems.}
diff --git a/lisp/subr.el b/lisp/subr.el
index c903ee3..ea926ae 100644
--- a/lisp/subr.el
+++ b/lisp/subr.el
@@ -2714,7 +2714,8 @@ shell-quote-argument
   "Quote ARGUMENT for passing as argument to an inferior shell.
 
 This function is designed to work with the syntax of your system's
-standard shell, and might produce incorrect results with unusual shells."
+standard shell, and might produce incorrect results with unusual shells.
+See Info node `(elisp)Security Considerations'."
   (cond
    ((eq system-type 'ms-dos)
     ;; Quote using double quotes, but escape any existing quotes in
diff --git a/src/callproc.c b/src/callproc.c
index eafd621..bb21c35 100644
--- a/src/callproc.c
+++ b/src/callproc.c
@@ -1660,7 +1660,7 @@ syms_of_callproc (void)
   DEFVAR_LISP ("shell-file-name", Vshell_file_name,
 	       doc: /* File name to load inferior shells from.
 Initialized from the SHELL environment variable, or to a system-dependent
-default if SHELL is not set.  */);
+default if SHELL is unset.  See Info node `(elisp)Security Considerations'.  */);
 
   DEFVAR_LISP ("exec-path", Vexec_path,
 	       doc: /* List of directories to search programs to run in subprocesses.
-- 
2.1.0


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-22  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 211+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-17 16:33 [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 17:14   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 17:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 18:23       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 19:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 20:28           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 20:44             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 21:25               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 21:32                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 22:00                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18  7:55                     ` Michael Albinus
2015-10-18 10:07                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 10:55                         ` Michael Albinus
2015-10-18 12:59                           ` Random832
2015-10-18 13:36                             ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 15:06                             ` Michael Albinus
2015-10-18 17:32                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 19:17                               ` Random832
2015-10-18 19:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19  4:32                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-19  5:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19  5:19                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-19  5:56                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19  8:16                                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-31 17:03                             ` Kai Großjohann
2015-10-31 16:50                           ` Kai Großjohann
2015-10-31 19:03                             ` Michael Albinus
2015-10-17 22:09                 ` Random832
2015-10-17 22:45                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 20:47             ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-17 21:20               ` Random832
2015-10-17 21:35                 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-17 21:27               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 21:53                 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-17 22:22                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18  2:40                     ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-18 10:03                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 15:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 16:40                         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 17:48                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18  2:47                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 13:35                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 19:14   ` Random832
2015-10-17 19:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 20:43       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 21:01       ` Random832
2015-10-17 17:23 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-17 18:11   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 18:42     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-19 12:35 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 12:59   ` David Kastrup
2015-10-19 13:09     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 13:48       ` Random832
2015-10-19 13:53         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 15:10           ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-19 17:06             ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20  1:41               ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-20  7:41                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 10:16                   ` Nicolas Richard
2015-10-20 15:47                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 16:41                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 16:59                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 17:32                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 17:41                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 17:58                               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 18:11                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 18:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20 23:34                                     ` Contributors and maintainers (Was: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote.) John Wiegley
2015-10-21  7:29                                       ` Contributors and maintainers Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21  8:27                                         ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-10-21  8:45                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-21 12:03                                             ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 14:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 14:40                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-21 16:05                                                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 18:16                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-21 18:37                                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-21 14:34                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-21 16:53                                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-21 17:24                                                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 18:49                                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-21 14:07                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 14:36                                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 15:44                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-21 16:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 17:22                                               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 17:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 19:58                                                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 21:21                                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-21 23:12                                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 14:38                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 14:45                                           ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-21 17:05                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-21 17:46                                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-21 18:12                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-21 18:19                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 18:18                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-21 18:54                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-22  5:40                                       ` Maintainers and contributors (was: Contributors and maintainers) John Wiegley
2015-10-22  7:20                                         ` Maintainers and contributors David Kastrup
2015-10-22 10:34                                         ` Maintainers and contributors (was: Contributors and maintainers) Artur Malabarba
2015-10-22 11:08                                           ` Maintainers and contributors David Kastrup
2015-10-22 11:55                                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-22 12:04                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-22 12:32                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 15:10                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 18:27                                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-22 19:08                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-22 23:37                                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-23  0:37                                                           ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-22 18:58                                                     ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-21  3:25                                     ` [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote Random832
2015-10-21  4:30                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-10-21 14:05                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 14:18                                         ` Random832
2015-10-21 14:40                                           ` Michael Albinus
2015-10-21 16:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 16:37                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-21 17:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 17:06                                             ` Random832
2015-10-21 17:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 18:11                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-21 18:24                                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-10-26 12:58                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2015-10-21 18:24                                                   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-21 18:44                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 18:57                                                       ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-21 19:10                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 19:30                                                           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-22 10:54                                                           ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-22 11:21                                                             ` Jeff Clough
2015-10-22 12:47                                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 15:11                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 15:23                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 15:51                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2015-10-22 13:09                                                               ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-22 15:03                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 15:12                                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-11-06 23:35                                                                 ` Kai Großjohann
2015-11-07  7:51                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 15:41                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-22 15:52                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22 17:25                                                               ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-21 18:11                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-21 18:49                                                 ` Random832
2015-10-21 19:03                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 19:10                                                     ` Random832
2015-10-21 19:21                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 19:50                                                         ` Random832
2015-10-22  2:38                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-22  7:03                                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 13:41                                                               ` Random832
2015-10-22 13:53                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 14:41                                                                   ` Random832
2015-10-22 14:50                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-22 16:18                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-22 15:20                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:39                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2015-11-01 20:39                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 22:34                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2015-10-20 19:00                                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 19:48                                     ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-10-20 20:47                                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 21:08                                         ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-10-21 14:09                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-21 18:22                                           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-20 16:21                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-20 17:11                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 17:22                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-20 17:36                         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 18:12                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-20 18:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20 18:55                             ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-22  3:35                               ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2015-10-19 13:22   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 13:36     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 13:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 13:41     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-19 13:43       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 13:55         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 14:09           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 15:13             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 17:08               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 17:11                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 17:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20  4:35                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-20  7:26                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20  7:55                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-20  8:17                       ` John Wiegley
2015-10-20  8:38                         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 12:48                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 11:45                         ` Becoming an Emacs contributor (was: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote.) Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-20 12:56                           ` Becoming an Emacs contributor Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 16:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20 17:32                               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 17:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20 17:53                                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 17:53                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-20 18:44                                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 19:12                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-24 17:26                                   ` Nix
2015-10-20 16:47                           ` Becoming an Emacs contributor (was: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote.) Kaushal Modi
2015-10-20  8:34                       ` [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20  8:49                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-20  8:54                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 15:40                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20 16:31                               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 16:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-20 17:28                                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-20 18:02                                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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