From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Przemys=c5=82aw_Wojnowski?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:12:50 +0200 Message-ID: <56227382.3070402@cumego.com> References: <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <871tcyexa9.fsf@fimbulvetr.bsc.es> <87612a7my2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <561DC925.5050001@siege-engine.com> <561E32D2.4060501@yandex.ru> <83wpum3ozk.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9lpriqw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445098388 26308 80.91.229.3 (17 Oct 2015 16:13:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 18:13:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnU6P-0000Tb-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:13:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnU6O-0003Ra-8G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnU6K-0003RJ-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnU6H-0000ZI-74 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp23.iq.pl ([86.111.242.228]:39159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnU6G-0000Yu-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 23872 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2015 16:12:51 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.93]) (esperanto@cumego.com@[89.74.60.220]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp22.iq.pl with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2015 16:12:51 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: <87h9lpriqw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 86.111.242.228 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191846 Archived-At: W dniu 17.10.2015 o 10:39, David Kastrup pisze: [...] > My refactoring work tends to be done using stuff like >[...] With all due respect, please spend a morning with a modern IDE (like Intellij, Eclipse) to learn how they make programmers productive. Especially look at their refactoring features. It's a different league.