From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 06:16:05 +0300 Message-ID: <561F1A75.1000909@yandex.ru> References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <56194171.1080006@siege-engine.com> <5619E7C7.5000401@yandex.ru> <561A9E6D.8080403@gmail.com> <561BCF54.7060000@yandex.ru> <561D85DE.4090304@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444879054 27763 80.91.229.3 (15 Oct 2015 03:17:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 03:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Ludlam , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 05:17:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmZ2m-0004w0-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmZ2l-0000WR-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55180) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmZ1Y-0000RT-6k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:16:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmZ1V-0005SO-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]:32947) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmZ1U-0005SJ-QW; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: by wijp11 with SMTP id p11so9266475wij.0; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:16:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rlWF5HqkUG0fKw1vEvoTYteY/AEpspGaMgKeFs4MiYw=; b=mjN5a29onk24Ee5obpP5Q/NWStfvVWkPh3wlQSl0ive/j4Hy3LdJqmWb9K7kdkTFNU DliX2HCvuhtmo97orDzv43MrjZkhLtCI/M55o4wWRikV9/aUclYcqyrvvTkMOm9R04Oj 6Lt1iPM8m9WBR8FFrEvqy6eloBhluno/MrmZmTL8Z9JSAXCWKBl+eElfkDHE9RrQTsHd 4Xw5J6uF69lkI5SMk7V1PyzAIZkVZA6DEYBJg9a8IuQcL1SUSc64iWh2cr/u9fr3Xx4e HZxo52KI5vYJXwyUottJhYa4TPykwmyeZaJfBYs5IwFJxkQ+JN5FFp7L9FXEPrmzE2qH 0vUQ== X-Received: by 10.180.188.169 with SMTP id gb9mr33097931wic.72.1444878968108; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id uq5sm13605374wjc.3.2015.10.14.20.16.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:16:06 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <561D85DE.4090304@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191609 Archived-At: On 10/14/2015 01:29 AM, Eric Ludlam wrote: > Simple things like showing the function you are editing, highlighting > tags with various features in different ways,or knowing what class the > method you are in are handy and quick little features that can be built > generically on top of CEDET, but which require piles of code to do > individually without that type of support. imenu, etags, ctags, global, > ident, etc all exist because it is useful, but none of those tools get > bound into a buffer, so their level of usefulness is limited to "jump to > a location" instead of handy inline features. Not sure what you mean by "bound into a buffer", but IMenu, in general, only requires a few regexps, and once you have those in place, which-func-mode can show up in which "tag" you are. And ctags can be used for "a database of tags across a project". You require it either way, since only open buffers are parsed by Semantic. > 3) a standard way of knowing where you are in relation to other tags How does that help? > Because it is a multi-mode buffer, so sometimes you want to complete > srecode symbols, and sometimes you want to complete from a different > language. Makes sense, thanks.