From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Ludlam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:45:02 -0400 Message-ID: <561B9D3E.3060606@siege-engine.com> References: <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <5618E51D.4070800@yandex.ru> <83twpzrp05.fsf@gnu.org> <5618ED93.8000001@yandex.ru> <83lhbbrnn7.fsf@gnu.org> <56191D6B.8040405@yandex.ru> <838u7assvj.fsf@gnu.org> <5619506B.3050303@gmx.at> <561A382E.6050008@yandex.ru> <561A390E.9020709@gmx.at> <561A3A1D.700@yandex.ru> <878u79ob0m.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <561A5471.4080406@yandex.ru> <87zizpmvhg.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <561A5C64.1090209@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444650333 30065 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 11:45:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii , adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov , David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 13:45:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlbXg-0004e3-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54725 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlbXg-0000Ak-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45455) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlbXS-00008D-Jo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlbXN-0004h2-Kn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qg0-f47.google.com ([209.85.192.47]:34247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlbXN-0004g5-HZ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: by qgez77 with SMTP id z77so118271124qge.1; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 04:45:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D45691+B55Xo5WJV44OriVWScrwHL/gGadBRjYg27A4=; b=ALtV/+lTKEGVN+dRTq7vZfvWhIJEyE+eLwyCXP1E5si3IIySxMHG4ljFGg29Nbo3pa Ud7o3zMME/hAnOKasuSEanLyRj/FwVHUS1ZFIZacK7TdG1mJSiuMm/UEkATwbOJwDI9A lv2SYEe8D8xRgLcVXhQ2l07/zQRrv2nE5oyTtj4khCWACP/gSa8N8bKdA8E7kfRDdVZF AEh1Q68SdrXW6HH6yHOD495JFA0yVKcQt3ucZOPy8R/Gfv9mgO4KbwRM379VFSWakeio SK+R5IvQjmwJ3/EI6rvo9ehMym17PygCYz74h+3HElYTojAzSQZk/xDYEFqwN74sYVEN kIRg== X-Received: by 10.140.19.175 with SMTP id 44mr31029044qgh.50.1444650305184; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 04:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.202] (pool-71-184-198-118.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [71.184.198.118]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 80sm6940728qhy.6.2015.10.12.04.45.03 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 04:45:03 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: <561A5C64.1090209@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.192.47 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191317 Archived-At: On 10/11/2015 08:56 AM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 10/11/2015 03:37 PM, David Engster wrote: > >> Works for me from 'emacs -Q' (emacs 24.5, lucid toolkit): > > Thanks, this sequence works for me too, even on master, but only with > '-Q'. So something in my config is at fault. > >>> I thought tooltips don't affect the keyboard input? >> >> I mean I cannot choose completions with the keyboard with up/down. But >> this is a problem with how it is done in CEDET, which was never my cup > > Right, CEDET would have to handle keyboard input somehow, for it to work > better. Back when I added that, there was no way for me to get keyboard navigation to work with the tooltip on my linux. There were menus available that did handle keyboard nav depending on toolkit, but those blocked typing, so I couldn't use them for the inline display that might popup automatically while you type. I have found that some of the other completion UIs have worked much better than the ones I put together, so I had since focused on just getting the completions as correct as I can. Eric