From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Przemys=c5=82aw_Wojnowski?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 22:04:19 +0200 Message-ID: <561034C3.2060101@cumego.com> References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87pp0yktyx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <22029.59130.54156.957525@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87io6pnujl.fsf@red-bean.com> <874mi840si.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443902697 4429 80.91.229.3 (3 Oct 2015 20:04:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 20:04:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 03 22:04:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiT2x-0005yd-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 22:04:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39860 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiT2w-0004Wf-HB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:04:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiT2f-0004WQ-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiT2b-0003PI-VG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp10.iq.pl ([86.111.242.219]:41570) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiT2b-0003P6-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 28971 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2015 20:04:20 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.102]) (esperanto@cumego.com@[159.205.196.239]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp22.iq.pl with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Oct 2015 20:04:20 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <874mi840si.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 86.111.242.219 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190822 Archived-At: > Maintainers tend to burn out and eventually cease their contribution as > developers. IMHO this is very important issue to address, because with them Emacs looses active developers and a lot of knowledge. What can be changed in this role to not burn out people? IMHO one problem might be that, due to lack of roadmap and clear priorities, a lot of different things are developed at the same time, which springs even more topics on emacs-devel. Going through this flood and deciding on them must be tiring. Selecting top 10 (X) from the roadmap would constrain topics range and make it simpler to manage. Also it would clarify for developers what to focus on. Another thing is that a maintainer doesn't have to code review every single change (search for "the cost of perfectionism"). It's enough if some other developer would do that. A developer that wrote a feature can just write tests and send an email to emacs-devel "XXX - ready for Code Review". I don't have experience as Emacs maintainer, so I may be wrong. But I do have some experience as a team lead and have to deal with similar issues.