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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306125 Archived-At: On 5/14/2023 4:00 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I agree. This is mainly an attempt to help package maintainers pick good (or >> "good enough") names on their own so that there's less time spent discussing >> this issue, and also to be upfront about what the Emacs/ELPA maintainers >> would prefer. That way, as a package maintainer, you can take these >> guidelines into account (or not) before you even submit the package. > > Great. Is there still something that needs to be resolved before we can > add this package to NonGNU ELPA, then? In my opinion, no. I only suggested 'devil-keys' as a compromise that could address the concerns people had about the name 'devil' not providing a hint about what the package does. (In this subthread, I mainly wanted to discuss whether we could come up with a general guideline to assist package authors in coming up with reasonably-good names.) But then I'm not exactly an authority figure on what does and doesn't go into ELPA. :)