From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RCS: (vc-next-action 1) only New Backend Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:41:33 +0300 Message-ID: <55FD9E4D.8080909@yandex.ru> References: <87mvwjohyi.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <838u83r6hl.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2rn5ucg.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <837fnmrizs.fsf@gnu.org> <877fnm4wzn.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <876136lr83.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y4g2pxh3.fsf@gnu.org> <871tdulodu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83twqqpu91.fsf@gnu.org> <55FD87DE.3030506@yandex.ru> <83pp1epb17.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442684535 27346 80.91.229.3 (19 Sep 2015 17:42:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: oub@mat.ucm.es, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 19 19:42:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZdM9E-00036L-VT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:42:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47173 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZdM9D-000105-Kj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34047) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZdM9A-0000zw-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZdM96-0004Qm-O2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:42:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]:34503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZdM96-0004QM-Ge; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: by lahg1 with SMTP id g1so46965457lah.1; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:41:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BMHzPmhYt6pF4mVzvfJ77fBffPX4LTbS07GNcReNK7k=; b=fWLsJI2p4xwb+HBtqvLhSvwAZi7afXmqcYUKRq1tpZWMCtq5DZh/l68KFkHL5arpLY yl0hdViUTF2NgcrbR4psV9h92Fv0i0CLIEOgqRA/go672DsCKTwN2wZvv97fNhzOi+lX tzJHfPl2desfgHOodZbLL5hIW8E4C9fhiyHRxe5NctUeaHa/+/QN8QYauItESw/3n1eH UDj7IaTCj+0j5SedD4b1Owd6NDjspy1+oKsByRT4IMSsFsKFCRKwJizQwhM9pwgb+vcw cnmbu+mpwdDK+6QWCgxhwrl+lJUEkJy4H7I4rVuvM0EEYJ3dcq3gss6Dem0GsgWG7byT JW0A== X-Received: by 10.152.4.103 with SMTP id j7mr5016165laj.92.1442684515747; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm2217210lbd.16.2015.09.19.10.41.54 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:41:55 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <83pp1epb17.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190107 Archived-At: On 09/19/2015 08:35 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Without this capability, you are forever limited to the 1.x series of > revisions, with the 1 part fixed and the x part monotonously > increasing ad nauseam. With this feature available, the user can > start with version 0.1, proceed to 0.99, then decide the software is > mature enough to be called 1.0, then bump to 2.0 when some major > feature is added, etc. Since revision numbers in RCS and similar > VCSes served also as poor man's version tags, not having this ability > takes away an important feature with these VCSes. I see, thank you for the explanation. > I cannot in good faith call the removal of a (now optional) argument a > "cleanup", sorry. Given the importance of the lost functionality, it > just isn't worth it, IMO. It *did* make the API better, somewhat. In case someone has the time to try out a better fix, maybe this feature would be better to implement the "assign the revision" functionality in a backend-specific way, via a MIME header in the log-edit buffer, the same way as we specify "Amend" in Git, or "Author" in most backends.